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South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« on: July 14, 2021, 01:40:54 PM »

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/south-africa-crumbling-amid-widespread-looting


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South Africa could be on the verge of collapse, and all the warning signs are there. The looters have targeted foreign shops, shopping centers, distribution centers/warehouses, and raided gun shops. Shortages are emerging in food, fuel, and ammo.

Over 70 have reportedly been killed since social unrest began last week after ex-president Jacob Zuma was jailed for failing to appear at a corruption inquiry. Supporters of Zuma, the nation's first Zulu president, have been on a looting spree that has crippled KwaZulu-Natal and parts of Johannesburg and disrupted national supply routes, resulting in food and fuel shortages in the affected area.
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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2021, 01:57:02 PM »

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The looters have targeted foreign shops, shopping centers, distribution centers/warehouses, and raided gun shops. Shortages are emerging in food, fuel, and ammo.

Over 70 have reportedly been killed since social unrest began last week

Sounds like a normal week in Chicago
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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2021, 02:00:35 PM »

This obviously the fault of Trump and the NRA.
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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2021, 02:10:58 PM »

Just read that their government has told those guarding their neighborhoods and shops they own to "stand down".
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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2021, 02:28:25 PM »

Just read that their government has told those guarding their neighborhoods and shops they own to "stand down".

That always ends well.
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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2021, 02:38:23 PM »

I wonder if the government that is unable to enforce laws against rioters and looters would instead enforce laws against people opposing rioters and looters?

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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2021, 02:43:11 PM »

I wonder if the government that is unable to enforce laws against rioters and looters would instead enforce laws against people opposing rioters and looters?
"unable" is the wrong word.  "unwilling" is likely more accurate. 

And yes, they would selectively enforce the law.  We have seen that here already.  Whether the govt leftists there would do the same thing I don't know. 
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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2021, 02:45:03 PM »

It's getting sporty in Portland Washington South Africa.

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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2021, 03:06:49 PM »

"unable" is the wrong word.  "unwilling" is likely more accurate. 

And yes, they would selectively enforce the law.  We have seen that here already.  Whether the govt leftists there would do the same thing I don't know.

First widely reported accounts of that came after Katrina when guns were stolen from law abiding citizens by the local police with assistance from the National Guard. We didn't see much effort to apprehend or disarm the poor oppressed indigents causing problems by looting and robbing other people.
 
And, last year of course we saw many examples of people that defended themselves from the poor, oppressed looters and rioters being persecuted by the local authorities.

I suspect we will see more of it in the coming years. Likely with increasingly less than pleasant outcomes.
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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2021, 03:10:38 PM »

When has South Africa not been on the verge of collapse in recent years?
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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2021, 12:17:39 AM »

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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2021, 09:41:12 AM »

If the whites have any sense they will get the *expletive deleted*ck out and let it go Zimbabwe.
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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2021, 11:20:09 AM »

If the whites have any sense they will get the *expletive deleted*ck out and let it go Zimbabwe.

S. Africa has punitive exit taxes that make it difficult/impossible to take any substantial portion of your net worth with you if you attempt to leave the country.

If you make the understandable decision that your life and that of your family is more important than your savings etc. It's still insanely difficult to find a first world country that will accept immigration, the US included.
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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2021, 11:29:56 AM »

S. Africa has punitive exit taxes that make it difficult/impossible to take any substantial portion of your net worth with you if you attempt to leave the country.

If you make the understandable decision that your life and that of your family is more important than your savings etc. It's still insanely difficult to find a first world country that will accept immigration, the US included.

Meanwhile at the Mexican border and Europe's Med coast line.....
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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2021, 11:37:00 AM »

If the whites have any sense they will get the *expletive deleted*ck out and let it go Zimbabwe.

Nowhere to flee to.  That would be like us giving up and retreating to Europe.  Whites spent hundreds of years making SA what it is,  they should fight to keep it.
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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2021, 11:45:35 AM »

Nowhere to flee to.  That would be like us giving up and retreating to Europe.  Whites spent hundreds of years making SA what it is,  they should fight to keep it.

Fight to keep it?  They already lost.

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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2021, 02:02:57 PM »

Fight to keep it?  They already lost.
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S. Africa has punitive exit taxes that make it difficult/impossible to take any substantial portion of your net worth with you if you attempt to leave the country.
Well . . . in a country with lots of diamonds, there are ways of exiting with value . . . although I've heard (but haven't been able to verify) that they try to restrict travel abroad by certain important people, e.g., paramedics, doctors, engineers, etc.
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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2021, 06:01:34 PM »

Fight to keep it?  They already lost.

The South Africans I've talked with wouldn't agree.  I get that a couple of them on social media aren't representative of the whole,  but they don't seem like they're inclined to lay down and die.
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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2021, 06:23:40 PM »

Plus, unless someone invents cheap space ships to go find somewhere else, we are running out of places to go. 

Of course, any attempt to fight will get them labeled as racists who want to return to apartheid(sp?). 
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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2021, 06:38:01 PM »

Plus, unless someone invents cheap space ships to go find somewhere else, we are running out of places to go. 

Of course, any attempt to fight will get them labeled as racists who want to return to apartheid(sp?).

Funnily enough, there's an emigrated south African working on that down in Texas.

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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2021, 06:37:04 AM »

Funnily enough, there's an emigrated south African working on that down in Texas.

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Re: South Africa could be on the verge of collapse
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