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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2021, 10:08:03 PM »

Not happening, there isn't a large enough group willing to risk everything to possibly lose everything.

The goal of many leftests is to burn down everything.
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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2021, 11:08:16 PM »

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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2021, 11:26:32 PM »

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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2021, 01:12:56 AM »

At this point? It will be someone shooting social justice warriors (i.e., someone unloads on a mob about to burn his house/business), and then the government going major crackdown.
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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2021, 01:18:17 AM »

Look behind the curtain of the capital gains transfer tax upon death proposed in the "american families plan"/reconciliation bill  This rises to that level for me.  The .gov between state and fed would take literally greater than half of my family's farm when my folks pass.  And that's before you even start talking about the estate tax.  This leads to forced liquidation.  Who buys?  Either big Ag, or if another current proposal gets legs, "socially disadvantaged" farmers using money stolen from me in taxes and given to them to buy my farm.  That may indeed be my rubicon.

I wonder if they're also hoping to fragment families? Because I've noticed, more than a few times, the children of prosperous farmers/business owners utterly destroying things when it gets toward probate...
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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2021, 03:49:55 AM »

I wonder if they're also hoping to fragment families? Because I've noticed, more than a few times, the children of prosperous farmers/business owners utterly destroying things when it gets toward probate...

Destroying the family has always been the goal.

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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2021, 06:33:08 AM »

IMHO even outright government seizure of 401(k) funds wouldn't cause a civil war - but a great many government officials (elected and otherwise) would find that however much taxpayer money they were spending on their own security, it wasn't enough.

If someone - or, possibly, several someones - unloads on a mob about to burn their homes/businesses and .gov orders the constabulary to get them, well . . . if the constabulary agrees and essentially decides to act as a security detail for the mob . . .  things will get very ugly very fast.
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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2021, 08:57:59 AM »

Start? It’s already started.

When will it go hot beyond lefties burning their cities down is the question. Pretty much everything has a building period where things start to accelerate quicker and quicker after the “slow boil” period is over. We are in that period. The American Revolution and the Civil War had that period. Rhodesia had it. South Africa is in it.

We have some disturbing things going on right now. Openly fraudulent election, Big Tech not just complying with government censorship but rushing to voluntarily make it happen, the rule of law collapsing (everywhere, not just the whacko cities/states), absolutely crushing people for a spicy walkthrough of the Capital but doing nothing to rioters who literally murder, assault, and commit arson, Antifa/BLM functioning as a terrorism wing of the Democrat party,
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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2021, 09:03:37 AM »

I must again bring up Kurt Schlichter's fictitious Kelly Turnbull series on the splitting of America to red and blue states. The sixth book just dropped on my Kindle. It goes back in time a bit to the beginnings of the split. I look forward to reading it.

As I have read his books, I have continued to think, "Geez Kurt, dial down the over the top stuff concerning the progressives. It's becoming unbelievable." Then a half year or a year later, he turns out to be prescient. Over the top crazy stuff in his fictitious books ends up happening in real life.
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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2021, 10:40:10 AM »

I like Tim Pool’s Timcast podcast series but he is starting to sound chicken littlish on the civil war thing. I think if we see a second fraudulent election leading to total democrat control and continued media and social media bias and censorship it could get interesting. So far, the wealthy are minimally effected and the poor are mostly satisfied. The middle class continues to take the hits.
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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2021, 11:04:59 AM »

You know what could trigger ACW II? Trump winning 2024. The dems would go nuts! Kind of like they did after the 1860 election.
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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2021, 02:57:56 PM »

You know what could trigger ACW II? Trump winning 2024. The dems would go nuts! Kind of like they did after the 1860 election.

Ok, this actually might do it. 

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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2021, 10:49:10 AM »

I believe history will repeat itself. You know, shades of 1776...

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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2021, 11:54:20 AM »

Full on civil war?  I doubt you could get a large enough group to form an army on one or both sides.  There is a large majority in America that rests in the middle of all of this, most of us included.  We just want to live our lives, no matter if we vote R, D, or a little of both.  We want a good life, and a better life for our kids.

What I could see is guerilla type actions, if either or both extremes organize.  Attacks on one side by the other, similar to some of the gangs we are seeing in the big metro areas.  Maybe one side or the other gets foggy and takes shots at .gov.  Like terrorist attacks (i.e. Timothy McVeigh style attacks).  As a .gov employee, that thought scares me.
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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2021, 12:16:52 PM »


We are at war, but most do not see it yet because it is not the conventional  illustrations. Nevertheless, everything we were taught to believe in as American citizens is under concerted attack.

Hyper inflation would do it. Not going to matter how much money is available, either in back account or EBT card- still won't buy anything.

A bad ADE effect from the jabs might do it, or enforced injections.

It will not look like the war between the states, more like Bosnia or Ruwanda- ethnic cleansing-maybe like the Finnish Civil war in 1918.

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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2021, 12:23:11 PM »

Full on civil war?  I doubt you could get a large enough group to form an army on one or both sides.  There is a large majority in America that rests in the middle of all of this, most of us included.  We just want to live our lives, no matter if we vote R, D, or a little of both.  We want a good life, and a better life for our kids.

What I could see is guerilla type actions, if either or both extremes organize.  Attacks on one side by the other, similar to some of the gangs we are seeing in the big metro areas.  Maybe one side or the other gets foggy and takes shots at .gov.  Like terrorist attacks (i.e. Timothy McVeigh style attacks).  As a .gov employee, that thought scares me.
Yep.  Lots of people would be caught in the cross fire if stuff like that starts happening.  You would see the same thing with police and all sorts of groups that are labeled as for or against.

Look at the police who have been murdered in recent years.  To my knowledge, none of them were personally responsible for any particular wrongdoing.  They were just targets of opportunity. 
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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2021, 07:50:45 PM »

Well rent is due. This could be a very exciting month. If hundreds of thousands of people lose their home it is not going to be pretty.
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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2021, 11:48:21 PM »

With reference to your 401 or savings accounts or traditional/Roth IRAs, don't forget what happened a few years ago in - IIRC - Cyprus.  The Greek government raided peoples accounts and seized as much as 75% of the values in an effort to bail out the Greek government.
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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2021, 05:10:43 AM »

With reference to your 401 or savings accounts or traditional/Roth IRAs, don't forget what happened a few years ago in - IIRC - Cyprus.  The Greek government raided peoples accounts and seized as much as 75% of the values in an effort to bail out the Greek government.
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Remember Biden is already eyeing 401ks they are just trying to figure out how to make it sound helpful.
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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2021, 10:44:56 PM »

Well rent is due. This could be a very exciting month. If hundreds of thousands of people lose their home it is not going to be pretty.

That should have started things last year. Thankfully I am not a landlord. How in the America did someone twist up a legal rationale for an unelected government agency to suspend contract law? Bigger assault on the rule of law than all the Portland weirdos ever.
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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2021, 12:34:03 AM »

With reference to your 401 or savings accounts or traditional/Roth IRAs, don't forget what happened a few years ago in - IIRC - Cyprus.  The Greek government raided peoples accounts and seized as much as 75% of the values in an effort to bail out the Greek government.
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Yup, I and many others stated then that it was testing the waters.

I also remember a guy driving a front loader through a bank front.

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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2021, 10:21:41 AM »

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"Who is going to stop them?"

If we DO have a civil war, crap like this out of DC will be the impetus.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/08/03/beauty-fades-dumb-is-forever-maxine-waters-dropped-for-trying-to-throw-the-cdc-under-the-bus-because-she-didnt-do-her-job/
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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2021, 10:47:18 AM »

"Who is going to stop them?"

If we DO have a civil war, crap like this out of DC will be the impetus.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/08/03/beauty-fades-dumb-is-forever-maxine-waters-dropped-for-trying-to-throw-the-cdc-under-the-bus-because-she-didnt-do-her-job/
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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2021, 11:49:57 AM »

"Who is going to stop them?"

If we DO have a civil war, crap like this out of DC will be the impetus.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/08/03/beauty-fades-dumb-is-forever-maxine-waters-dropped-for-trying-to-throw-the-cdc-under-the-bus-because-she-didnt-do-her-job/

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Re: What would start the next civil war?
« Reply #49 on: August 06, 2021, 09:33:26 AM »

The war is over, long over. We're experiencing the mopping up right now.

Hopefully, they leave us older folks alone, to just fade away.

I cannot imaging what the future holds for the younger generations. It won't be anything we would recognize from our youth.

Focus on The Lord Jesus, family, friends. Try and keep yourself insulated from the "shocks" we have no control over by making good decisions.

I'm just not seeing widespread hatred that can coalesce into open war. I see a defeated, exhausted and somewhat satiated people who don't share many if any cultural touchstones.

It's not a bad thing that there won't be open warfare. 

This is just my most recent reevaluation of our situation.


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