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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #550 on: August 31, 2021, 08:06:11 AM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #551 on: August 31, 2021, 08:51:21 AM »
USA leaves behind 51 contract working dogs in Kabul, military veterans trying to raise funds for their evacuation
https://www.opindia.com/2021/08/usa-leaves-behind-51-contract-working-dogs-in-kabul-military-veterans-raise-funds-evacuation/

So I am hearing a lot of people mention this story this morning.  Were these trained military working dogs or something else?  Not sure what "contract working dogs" means.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #552 on: August 31, 2021, 09:02:22 AM »
USA leaves behind 51 contract working dogs in Kabul, military veterans trying to raise funds for their evacuation
https://www.opindia.com/2021/08/usa-leaves-behind-51-contract-working-dogs-in-kabul-military-veterans-raise-funds-evacuation/

So I am hearing a lot of people mention this story this morning.  Were these trained military working dogs or something else?  Not sure what "contract working dogs" means.

Trained working dogs that belonged to/worked for contractors.  So for example, we contract out base security at some bases to Triple Canopy.  If the contract specifies that their ECP's need to have bomb dog capability provided by the contractor, then Triple Canopy will hire a trained bomb sniffing dog and handler team to fulfill that part of the contract.  Same for patrol dog, or whatever.

I'm unclear as to what contract these particular dogs were working on, and as far as I know It hasn't been said which contractor employed them, although I'll bet that comes out sooner or later.  Twitter is also saying now that they are being fed and watered at the airport, and a 737 has been chartered to get them to Ramstein, then after quarantine back to the states and homed.  Several groups have been involved in funding and handling that.  Vetern Sheepdogs of America is apparently the non profit leading the effort for these 51 dogs.  https://twitter.com/VetSheepdogsUS/status/1432569494577168388

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #553 on: August 31, 2021, 09:32:44 AM »
USA leaves behind 51 contract working dogs in Kabul, military veterans trying to raise funds for their evacuation
https://www.opindia.com/2021/08/usa-leaves-behind-51-contract-working-dogs-in-kabul-military-veterans-raise-funds-evacuation/

So I am hearing a lot of people mention this story this morning.  Were these trained military working dogs or something else?  Not sure what "contract working dogs" means.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #554 on: August 31, 2021, 10:07:48 AM »
Whatever you think about the "leaving materiel behind" stuff, this certainly seems like a bad answer. Pentagon spokesman:

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Kirby says it's okay that we left U.S. military assets and weapons behind for the Taliban because they don't "pose a threat to the United States or pose a threat to neighboring nations."

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/08/31/pentagon-spox-john-kirby-defends-leaving-weapons-and-people-behind-for-the-taliban-points-out-that-americans-get-stranded-in-countries-all-the-time-videos/
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #555 on: August 31, 2021, 10:15:06 AM »
I just saw a pic of the line of kennels full of dogs left at the airport. I'm ready to go John Wick on somebodies ass.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #557 on: August 31, 2021, 11:02:29 AM »
Reports of the Taliban going house to house performing executions.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/taliban-kabul-executions-afghanistan-gunshots-audio
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #558 on: August 31, 2021, 11:07:40 AM »
Seen that video where Biden is looking at his watch during the transfer of the 13 service members killed in Kabul?

Well...
He did more than once according to this

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But according to two gold star fathers, the president looked at his watch more than one time.

Speaking to Fox News’ Sean Hannity, Darin Hoover, father of slain Marine Staff Sgt. Taylor Hoover, claimed the commander in chief looked at his watch 13 times.

“That didn’t happen just once,” he alleged. “That happened on every single one that came out of that airplane. It happened on every single one of them. They would release the salute and he’d look down at his watch. On every last one. All 13—he looked down at his watch.”
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2021/08/31/father-of-killed-marine-says-biden-checked-his-watch-as-each-body-came-out-n2595040

Probably was watching the clock to make sure he got to the ice cream shop before it closed.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #559 on: August 31, 2021, 11:18:00 AM »
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Shana Chappell, mother of slain Marine Lance Cpl. Kareem Mae'Lee Grant Nikoui, also noted in a Facebook post that she witnessed the president check his watch five times. Her Facebook and Instagram accounts have since been suspended.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2021/08/31/father-of-killed-marine-says-biden-checked-his-watch-as-each-body-came-out-n2595040
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #560 on: August 31, 2021, 01:23:58 PM »
I just saw a pic of the line of kennels full of dogs left at the airport. I'm ready to go John Wick on somebodies ass.

About the dogs

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From SPCA International:

    Here is what we know: In the end, the dogs and their caretakers were explicitly NOT allowed to board military aircraft, and numerous private charter aircraft were not granted access to the airport either. Charlotte was informed that most of the KSAR dogs had to be released into the airport on August 30 as the airport was evacuated – turning once rescued shelter dogs into homeless strays. They were not given access to the flight we had secured to transport them out of the country. They are within the airport in an area used for housing employees at the far end of the flight line.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/08/31/spca-international-says-the-rescued-dogs-in-kabul-were-released-into-the-airport-and-are-now-running-loose/

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Defense Department spokesman @ericpahon2: “To correct erroneous reports, the US military did not leave any dogs in cages at Hamid Karzai International Airport, to include the reported ‘military working dogs.’”

— Matt Brown (@mrbrownsir) August 31, 2021
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    The military’s dogs got out. The contractor working dogs were left behind in those cages.

    — Andrew D Brooks🇺🇸🏳️‍🌈✝️ (@andrewdbrooks) August 31, 2021
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/08/31/the-pentagon-says-no-u-s-service-dogs-were-left-in-afghanistan-but-that-doesnt-really-explain-things/
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #561 on: August 31, 2021, 01:30:16 PM »
Well the taliban will be eating good for a while.

Just talked to a friend on who's father used to be president of the university there. He is working all channels trying to get the American professors and students out. I asked if he could find out why they were turned away at the airport. I will report back if he can find out.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #562 on: August 31, 2021, 01:51:58 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #563 on: August 31, 2021, 02:17:10 PM »
Someone posted this on Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/256417954468313/posts/3974899595953445/

This photo went viral yesterday and we want to clear up some misinformation surrounding it. We are 100% certain that there are zero US military working dogs abandoned in Kabul. Zero. The US military did not leave a single MWD behind.

We share your anger, frustration and sadness knowing that any dogs were abandoned, but at this time, we cannot verify what day this photo was taken or who is ultimately responsible for these dogs. What we can verify is that these are NOT US military working dogs being abandoned in Kabul.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #564 on: August 31, 2021, 02:33:48 PM »
Someone posted this on Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/256417954468313/posts/3974899595953445/

This photo went viral yesterday and we want to clear up some misinformation surrounding it. We are 100% certain that there are zero US military working dogs abandoned in Kabul. Zero. The US military did not leave a single MWD behind.

We share your anger, frustration and sadness knowing that any dogs were abandoned, but at this time, we cannot verify what day this photo was taken or who is ultimately responsible for these dogs. What we can verify is that these are NOT US military working dogs being abandoned in Kabul.

I wonder if that's of a similar vein as "We did not leave any US materiel in Afghanistan". If they are contractor dogs, somebody at the Pentagon might be spinning the PR regarding feds vs contractors hired by feds.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #565 on: August 31, 2021, 04:05:55 PM »
At this point
Is there anyone on the planet stupid enough to believe anything the US Government says?

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #566 on: August 31, 2021, 04:41:32 PM »
Nearly 90 retired Generals and Admirals call for Milley and Austin to resign immediately

https://flagofficers4america.com/media-and-pr

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #567 on: August 31, 2021, 06:55:20 PM »
Every dipshit at the top of this should be airdropped into Afghanistan. Parachutes optional.
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #568 on: August 31, 2021, 07:04:51 PM »
Oh for *expletive deleted*s sake

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #569 on: August 31, 2021, 07:20:03 PM »
Lot of disdain for leadership in veterans eyes. Read some of the comments…

https://www.facebook.com/195258057192505/posts/4538237852894482/?d=n

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #570 on: August 31, 2021, 07:41:43 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #571 on: August 31, 2021, 08:01:25 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #572 on: August 31, 2021, 09:00:01 PM »
Nearly 90 retired Generals and Admirals call for Milley and Austin to resign immediately

https://flagofficers4america.com/media-and-pr

I don't give those any credence.  90 politicians in uniform who have secured their retirements and risk nothing personally make political statements.  Whoopidy doo.

Colonel Scheller on the other hand just turned in his resignation at 17 years of duty, giving up the retirement and other financial packages that would have garnered him over 2 million dollars during his lifetime.  Reason given in his resignation: Loss of trust and confidence in the leadership of the Secretary of Defense.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #573 on: August 31, 2021, 11:36:04 PM »
I don't give those any credence.  90 politicians in uniform who have secured their retirements and risk nothing personally make political statements.  Whoopidy doo.

Colonel Scheller on the other hand just turned in his resignation at 17 years of duty, giving up the retirement and other financial packages that would have garnered him over 2 million dollars during his lifetime.  Reason given in his resignation: Loss of trust and confidence in the leadership of the Secretary of Defense.

I have a great deal of admiration for Lt. Col. Scheller.  Fantastic example of putting your money where your mouth is and doing the right thing, even to your own detriment.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #574 on: September 01, 2021, 07:49:47 AM »
Can we start hating Biden now?

Mother of Marine killed in Kabul says Biden rolled his 'f***ing eyes' when she remembered son during meeting
https://www.foxnews.com/media/mother-of-marine-killed-in-kabul-says-biden-rolled-his-fing-eyes-when-she-remembered-son-during-meeting
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