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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2021, 05:18:58 PM »
Yep about 40% of the plinking 5.56, 7.62x39, 9MM etc comes from Russia. I'm hoping wolf makes the primer somewhere they still ship them in. I've used many and they are as good as CCI.
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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2021, 06:00:12 PM »
I wonder about that 40% number. Wolf for example was made in Russia, but is now Taiwan and is actually an American company I believe. A lot of imported ammo actually comes out of Serbia, Israel, Czech Republic, etc. I’ve been buying and shooting a lot of Norma handgun ammo now that they make it, that’s Norway. Fiocchi has always been a big name out of Italy. I’m not convinced this ban will make that big a difference. Especially as other manufacturers have increased production capacity recently.

Of course Biden could try to ban imports from other countries.

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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2021, 06:58:45 PM »
I wonder about that 40% number. Wolf for example was made in Russia, but is now Taiwan and is actually an American company I believe. A lot of imported ammo actually comes out of Serbia, Israel, Czech Republic, etc. I’ve been buying and shooting a lot of Norma handgun ammo now that they make it, that’s Norway. Fiocchi has always been a big name out of Italy. I’m not convinced this ban will make that big a difference. Especially as other manufacturers have increased production capacity recently.

Of course Biden could try to ban imports from other countries.

Interesting. It's been a long time since I bought factory ammo so haven't paid much attention but the 40% number has been from several venders. Maybe they don't know where the ammo is made or are going to use it as an excuse to raise prices back up above last years highs.
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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2021, 07:21:29 PM »
Interesting. It's been a long time since I bought factory ammo so haven't paid much attention but the 40% number has been from several venders. Maybe they don't know where the ammo is made or are going to use it as an excuse to raise prices back up above last years highs.

I could very well be wrong. I’m certainly not a dealer. It’s been decades since I bought any ammo actually made in Russia though, so I find it hard to believe that 40% number. Now I do purposefully avoid any steel case or anything with steel in the actual bullet. I know that was at least common with Russian ammo. I also generally go through more than my fair share of ammo with several firearms with giggle switches so it seems I would run into more Russian ammo if that number was accurate.

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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2021, 07:46:08 PM »
I can easily believe Russia makes 40% of the imported ammo.  Harder to believe 40% of all of it.  I guess more people will talk about that. 
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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2021, 07:49:07 PM »
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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2021, 10:41:30 PM »
https://gunzonedeals.com/product/tula-7.62x39-122gr-fmj-1000-rd-case

https://gunzonedeals.com/product/tulammo-ta223550-centerfire-rifle-223-remington5.56-nato-55-gr-full-metal-jacket-20-bx-50-cs-2#product_detail

Gun Zone Deals has cases of Tula ammo at 50 cents per round.  I was thinking Tula was a little less than that, but not much.

Here is PMC for .50 a round. Brass case and boxer primed. I’m sure the ban will make a difference, I don’t believe it will be a drastic increase in price at this time. Of course I could very well be completely wrong.

https://trueshotgunclub.com/ammunition/rifle-ammo/223-rem/pmc/pmc-bronze-223-rem-55-grain-fmj-1000-rounds/?avad=211021_f237fc6c9

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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2021, 07:28:19 AM »
Wolf Gold is, IIRC, made in Taiwan. It wouldn't surprise  me to find out a lot of "Russian " brands had opened plants in other countries over the last 10 years or so.

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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2021, 12:21:16 PM »
Which reminds me. Back to shopping for an air rifle.

44-50 cal air rifle is on my list.
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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2021, 12:28:17 PM »
The 3D printed gun crowd is working on do it yourself propellant.  I'll just make my own ammo before I switch to air guns.

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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2021, 12:52:20 PM »
The 3D printed gun crowd is working on do it yourself propellant.  I'll just make my own ammo before I switch to air guns.

Keep looking on and off for something to plink with without having to my tap into my rimfire stash where it's increasing by the day costing more to replenish. Also having something to quietly take out small game without dealing with a suppressor tax stamp is a bonus.
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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2021, 01:29:53 PM »
Keep looking on and off for something to plink with without having to my tap into my rimfire stash where it's increasing by the day costing more to replenish. Also having something to quietly take out small game without dealing with a suppressor tax stamp is a bonus.


I have a .38 Special load I worked up for my Marlin 1894C about a dozen or so years ago that fits that niche.
Very quiet load out of the rifle, not much louder that a .22 short out of a revolver and considerably quieter than a .22 LR out of a rifle.
I need to look through my ammo stash to see if I have any left. I know I have it documented in my notes with chronograph results and a couple of saved targets. It's cast lead (straight wheel weights probably) 158 gr. lrnfp (Lee mold) over a light charge of Unique. at 25 yards I could cut single hole groups all day. I did knock off a couple of long eared garden thieves with it but moved on to other shiny goals before I'd full rung it out. Time to revisit it I think
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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #37 on: August 23, 2021, 02:11:06 PM »
The only Russian stuff I shoot is out of my AK/SKS.  Purchased quite a bit of Wolf, Brown Bear and Tula stuff back when it was cheap.  Since the cost increase on that stuff, I’ve been reloading 7.62x39 so the ban won’t bother me much.  But, I am not a fan of how it will affect others. 

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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2021, 06:40:13 PM »
I'm glad I got a good deal on dies, brass and some bullets for 7.62 not long ago and I already have a mold.
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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2021, 10:07:58 AM »
Tim at MAC chims in and attempts to inject a bit of sanity into all of this

Russian ammo gone? WAIT! Don't sell those AK's just yet.
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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2021, 12:31:35 PM »
I doubled my money when I sold my 5.45 stash. Should have kept it.
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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #41 on: August 29, 2021, 07:00:58 PM »
Tim at MAC chims in and attempts to inject a bit of sanity into all of this

Russian ammo gone? WAIT! Don't sell those AK's just yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM-riawZ31I

Pretty much the same thing I’ve been saying. Suddenly I’ve been seeing a lot of Russian Ammo advertised/promoted. Almost all is the typical 7.62x39, 5.45x39, 7.62x54R, etc. While I do own firearms in these calibers I don’t often shoot them and there are other sources. I really don’t see this affecting overmuch 9mm, 5.56, 45ACP what have you that much. At the same time American, other European and Asian companies are still ramping up production of most calibers.


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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #42 on: August 29, 2021, 08:46:22 PM »
I really don’t see this affecting overmuch 9mm, 5.56, 45ACP what have you that much. At the same time American, other European and Asian companies are still ramping up production of most calibers.
A whole lot of 9mm, 5.56, and 45acp are cheap, steel case, Russian ammo. The people who bought it will either need to shoot less, buy more of other ammo, or a combination of the two.

That will push demand of remaining stock and push prices up.

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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2021, 08:15:49 AM »
Yeah.

This is going to jack up the price of all ammo, even calibers the Russians don't make.   =(

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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2021, 10:32:05 AM »
Seeing ads for "Pre-Ban" ammo   ;/
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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #45 on: September 01, 2021, 01:46:37 PM »
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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #46 on: September 01, 2021, 02:14:07 PM »
Funny how they added "Russian" and "from Russia" to all of their Russian made ammo.  Pretty sure that didn't use to be something they pushed.

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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #47 on: September 01, 2021, 02:54:50 PM »
Fiocchi has always been a big name out of Italy.

Fiocchi has a plant in Missouri, and they're building another in Arkansas.
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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #48 on: September 02, 2021, 06:56:46 AM »
Fiocchi has a plant in Missouri, and they're building another in Arkansas.

What's with Arkansas and ammo makers?  That state seems to be the go-to state for new ammo plants these days.
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Re: Joe Biden Bans Russian Ammunition Importation
« Reply #49 on: September 02, 2021, 07:26:15 AM »
What's with Arkansas and ammo makers?  That state seems to be the go-to state for new ammo plants these days.

The Clintons go through a lot of ammo
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