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The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« on: September 11, 2021, 09:31:29 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIhNsAtPbPI

This popped up on my feed today.  I might make an effort to go see this in the theater.  Daniel Craig says this is his final Bond film.
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2021, 09:52:08 PM »

I want to see it. I wonder if it will be dual release, theaters and streaming or just theaters?
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2021, 09:58:50 PM »

I want to see it. I wonder if it will be dual release, theaters and streaming or just theaters?

If recent releases are a guide, figure out which way will piss of the most people and that would be a good bet.
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2021, 10:00:11 PM »

I wonder, after this, if the 007 franchise will end, transition to another good Bond actor, or ruin itself by going woke.

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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2021, 10:39:18 PM »

I wonder, after this, if the 007 franchise will end, transition to another good Bond actor, or ruin itself by going woke.
Well, Hollywood spy sources say this will be the next 007 . . . should check enough woke boxes.

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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2021, 10:52:00 PM »

I'm a pretty big fan of the Bond books and films.  There's already a *expletive deleted*it-storm about this movie, and it hasn't even been released.  See, people watched an early trailer which had the black woman indicating she was a Double-0.  Immediately people started screaming about "Jane Bond", pissed off because they made James Bond a woman.  Now, later trailers and press about the movie all pretty much indicate the woman is a Double-0, maybe even 007, because Bond is retired, and the film is about him coming out of retirement because of the latest bad guy/world threat.  Doesn't matter.  The fan base is still screaming about how they've destroyed the franchise by making Bond a woman...

I'm going to see it.  Probably will carry my new-to-me Walther P99 to get in the spirit of the evening.
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2021, 11:34:37 PM »

There have been rumors for years that the next 007 would be a woman, or a black man. Anything other than the character Ian Fleming created. It would not surprise me at all to see Hollyweird going full woke and making it a black woman.

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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2021, 11:45:27 PM »

There have been rumors for years that the next 007 would be a woman, or a black man. Anything other than the character Ian Fleming created. It would not surprise me at all to see Hollyweird going full woke and making it a black transgender woman.

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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2021, 02:08:32 AM »

Daniel Craig says this is his final Bond film.

He's said multiple times that he's never doing another Bond film, usually right after filming.
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2021, 05:34:29 AM »

"It would not surprise me at all to see Hollyweird going full woke and making it a black transgender woman.

I'm confused. Does that mean a black genetic woman turned "male,"  or a black genetic male turned "woman?"  I think you got the black part right, but I would add possibly Hispanic/Spanish. 

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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2021, 08:13:23 AM »

"It would not surprise me at all to see Hollyweird going full woke and making it a black transgender woman.

I'm confused. Does that mean a black genetic woman turned "male,"  or a black genetic male turned "woman?"  I think you got the black part right, but I would add possibly Hispanic/Spanish. 

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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2021, 10:18:06 AM »

For a bit, they were floating Idris Alba as taking over the Bond role in future films.
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2021, 10:18:54 AM »


I'm going to see it.  Probably will carry my new-to-me Walther P99 to get in the spirit of the evening.

Hey, you finally got that P99?!? Cool! I know you've been wanting one for years.
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2021, 10:22:34 AM »

For a bit, they were floating Idris Alba as taking over the Bond role in future films.

A black man, or any woman in the role obviously throws out Fleming's canon. I think black people even stand out now in Russia, let alone the old USSR. However they've kinda tossed Canon and cold war stuff for the last couple of decades now, and given that, Elba would be an awesome choice.
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2021, 10:40:23 AM »

A black man, or any woman in the role obviously throws out Fleming's canon. I think black people even stand out now in Russia, let alone the old USSR. However they've kinda tossed Canon and cold war stuff for the last couple of decades now, and given that, Elba would be an awesome choice.
Elba is a good actor and a fine choice for any of a number of action hero characters - but not James Bond.  Even casting a blond guy like Daniel Craig as JB was pushing it IMHO.

It would be like casting Tom Hanks in the title role of a movie about Malcolm X or having Bruce Willis play Clarence Thomas in a court drama. (Hanks of course would refuse, but considering how many direct-to-DVD stinkers Willis has been showing up in lately . . . I don't know about him.)
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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2021, 10:42:32 AM »

However they've kinda tossed Canon and cold war stuff for the last couple of decades now, and given that, Elba would be an awesome choice.

If you are willing to accept the tossing of the "canon," then perhaps Elba would be good. I won't accept that.

Sean Connery remains the quintessential James Bond. Following him, things went downhill rapidly, with perhaps the worst being Roger Moore, who played Bond as a lightweight clown rather than as a super-deadly secret agent. David Niven as Bond? Sheesh! Pierce Brosnan was a positive move back in the direction of playing Bond as a deadly agent, and Daniel Craig took that even further.

They can abandon the canon if they want (and I'm sure they will), but they'll do it without my contribution to the box office.

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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2021, 10:46:28 AM »

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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2021, 11:23:01 AM »

Personally not a Craig fan as Bond. I don’t think he brings the polish that Bond is supposed to have. I think only Moore was worse as Bond from the normally accepted 6 actors who portrayed Bond. Connery is number one. I have a hard time placing Lazenby since he only did one movie. I think Brosnan may edge out Dalton.

I don’t consider the 67 Casino Royale to be a true James Bond film.

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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2021, 12:35:13 PM »

Connery, Craig, Brosnan, Moore, Dalton.

Craig didn’t have the polish, but he had the stone cold killer that even Connery didn’t quite have.  Brosnan was neither fish nor fowl.  Moore and Dalton had waaayyy to much camp.

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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2021, 01:10:29 PM »

. . .  with perhaps the worst being Roger Moore, who played Bond as a lightweight clown  . . .
Reminds me of an old Johnny Carson skit as Carnac the Magnificent that I saw:

Carnac Answers: JUNK BONDS  (there was news at the time of some financial shenanigans on wall street.)

The Question: Describe the last few 007 movies.

IIRC, this was during the Roger Moore timeframe.   :rofl:
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2021, 01:12:13 PM »

I like Craig's bond because of the aforementioned stone cold killer aspect.  I liked Connery as well.

At this point I think being a James Bond fan requires quite a bit of suspension of disbelief, or handwaving fan theories.  The tech doesn't exist, in some cases it actually moves backward, changing faces on an unaging spy.  Also, pretending that the movie series currently conforms to any kind of Flemming "canon" is ridiculous.  That said, if they wanted to slide a black actor into the role, and it was a good fit, I'd give it a watch.  Elba could pull it off.  Better than the chops you have to do to the story to make a black actor play Roland of Gilead.

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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2021, 02:26:06 PM »

As a young man, I read all the books.  I stopped watching the Bond movies after Connery stopped doing Bond.  Some things just can't go on after it has been the best.
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« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2021, 02:57:27 PM »

For Bonds, I like Connery, Craig, Brosnon, Dalton. Much of Connery is because he was the first. He was the suave spy who got the job done. Like others though, I really liked the grit that Craig brought to it. Connery was a spy, but Craig is a 00 killer.
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« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2021, 03:58:49 PM »

If you are willing to accept the tossing of the "canon," then perhaps Elba would be good. I won't accept that.

Sean Connery remains the quintessential James Bond. Following him, things went downhill rapidly, with perhaps the worst being Roger Moore, who played Bond as a lightweight clown rather than as a super-deadly secret agent. David Niven as Bond? Sheesh! Pierce Brosnan was a positive move back in the direction of playing Bond as a deadly agent, and Daniel Craig took that even further.

They can abandon the canon if they want (and I'm sure they will), but they'll do it without my contribution to the box office.

I always had the same view of the sissy-ish David Niven, but in reality, he was probably the manliest of all the Bond portrayers, he was a British Commando during WWII:
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David Niven’s exploits in Phantom are little-known, as the actor remained tight-lipped about his wartime experience for the rest of his life. He shunned the limelight given to celebrities who served and scorned journalists who covered the war with florid prose. He once said “Anyone who says a bullet sings past, hums past, flies, pings, or whines past, has never heard one – they go crack!” He once explained the reason behind his silence and humility: “I will, however, tell you just one thing about the war, my first story and my last. I was asked by some American friends to search out the grave of their son near Bastogne. I found it where they told me I would, but it was among 27,000 others, and I told myself that here, Niven, were 27,000 reasons why you should keep your mouth shut after the war.”

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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2021, 04:03:34 PM »

While we are pondering the pantheon of Bonds, I would like to put in a plug for Judi Dench playing M in seven films.  I thought she always did a fine job. I will be interested to see how Ralph Fiennes does.
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