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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #50 on: September 23, 2021, 03:32:15 PM »
I think they are supposed to have moved on from rum, buggery, and the lash, but you never know.
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2021, 04:04:06 PM »
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2021, 05:03:20 PM »
Soooo, does this mean he must become acquainted with, as Winston Churchill would say, the finest traditions of the Royal Navy?

As an actor, I'm sure he's already acquainted with such things.
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2021, 07:26:24 PM »
When Bond was written and first put on film, real manly men smoked cigarettes, drank heavily, and bedded many women...sometimes after overcoming their resistance.  A Walther PPK was a great concealment combat sidearm, with a delivery like a brick through plate glass.  Manly men wore suits often, gambled, and had memberships to the Playboy Club.

The Playboy Club is gone.  We all quit smoking, or tried, tired again.  Hard drinking isn't seen as a good thing.  The PPK is outdated firearms tech, with any of the mini 9mms being better choices.  And forcing a woman is wrong. 

Bond?  Still drinks hard.  Still carries the PPK (it's part of the character by now), but now the women are willing, and fewer. 

My care as a fan?  Wish he'd get a better gun, but give me a good story with exciting action scenes.  Casino Royale (Craig's version) and Skywalk did that well, IMHO.  Hoping this one does as well.
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #54 on: September 24, 2021, 07:11:09 AM »
"Skywalk "

????

Skyfall?
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #55 on: September 24, 2021, 08:31:15 AM »
When Bond was written and first put on film, real manly men smoked cigarettes, drank heavily, and bedded many women...sometimes after overcoming their resistance.  A Walther PPK was a great concealment combat sidearm, with a delivery like a brick through plate glass.  Manly men wore suits often, gambled, and had memberships to the Playboy Club.

The Playboy Club is gone.  We all quit smoking, or tried, tired again.  Hard drinking isn't seen as a good thing.  The PPK is outdated firearms tech, with any of the mini 9mms being better choices.  And forcing a woman is wrong. 

Bond?  Still drinks hard.  Still carries the PPK (it's part of the character by now), but now the women are willing, and fewer. 

My care as a fan?  Wish he'd get a better gun, but give me a good story with exciting action scenes.  Casino Royale (Craig's version) and Skywalk did that well, IMHO.  Hoping this one does as well.
I thought the idea was that women desired Bond and though some were reluctant, they were not unwilling.  Either way, it isn't something acceptable to put in movies these days.  Hollywood people may act that way (with drugs thrown in), but they can't show that behavior publicly. 

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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2021, 02:12:16 PM »
Well I am in for opening day.  I have seen every Bond in the theaters since The Spy Who Loved Me.  The only exception was the modern Casino Royale because Craig did not strike me as Bond.  Boy was I wrong.  I think Casino Royale is one of the best stories of the series and Craig and Connery can share the top Bond billings.

Yes, Bond and the mannerisms are dated, but so are most films of the past.  Call it a history and culture lesson.

Best Bonds:
Connery/Craig
Brosnan
Dalton
Lazenby
Moore (but I love The Saint!)

Best Connery Movie--From Russia with Love
Best Moore--Spy Who Loved Me (and the overall best opening sequence and song)
Best Dalton--License to Kill
Best Brosnan--Goldeneye
Best Craig--Casino Royale (Skyfall not far behind)

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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2021, 03:34:56 PM »
I liked the new Casino Royale, but I found the overall plot of the Craig movies kind of confusing.
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #58 on: September 24, 2021, 03:43:00 PM »
From Russia with Love?

Ugh.

Thunderball followed by Goldfinger.
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #59 on: September 24, 2021, 05:19:38 PM »
Casino Royale was the best Bond movie ever followed by Goldeneye as a close second. Fight me.

I agree that other 00 agents are a field rife for storytelling; Sean Bean as 006 in Goldeneye was a neat teaser in that regard. Heck, considering the incomprehensible conflagration of the "Marvel Cinematic Universe" (of which lost me a long time ago), I'm surprised such an expansion isn't more on the minds of whomever owns the rights to Bond.
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #60 on: September 24, 2021, 07:25:46 PM »
From Russia with Love?

Ugh.

Thunderball followed by Goldfinger.

Hell yeah!

Robert Shaw was excellent, as was Connery getting his ass kicked awhile fighting on the train.

The Russian blonde, oh my!

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I like all the Connery flicks, just my personal preference.

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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #61 on: September 24, 2021, 07:47:58 PM »
"Skywalk "

????

Skyfall?

Can't believe my phone auto corrected Skyfall to Skywalk...  Embarassing.

The Broccoli family still owns the Bond films, and keeps a pretty tight reign on the Bond films to make sure they approve of what comes out.   Not sure who owns the book rights.  But I agree, Tales of the 00s is a wide open field to play in for writers.  The stories wouldn't even need to include "Bond," so they would be able to protect that character.  They could play with race and gender.  It could be awesome.

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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #62 on: September 26, 2021, 09:53:21 PM »


Best Connery Movie--From Russia with Love
Best Moore--Spy Who Loved Me (and the overall best opening sequence and song)
Best Dalton--License to Kill
Best Brosnan--Goldeneye
Best Craig--Casino Royale (Skyfall not far behind)

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Can't disagree with any of those.

Call it nostalgia, but if forced to pick,  "The spy who loved me" takes the prize.  Add all variables and it's my favorite.
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #63 on: September 26, 2021, 10:39:19 PM »
Roger Moore played Bond as such a lightweight clown than I can't put any of his Bond movies anywhere near the top. And, having read the book The Spy Who Loved Me, I couldn't include that movie even if it had been played by someone else. The only thing the movie took from the book was the title (although, apparently, the producers had no choice in the matter).

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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #64 on: September 27, 2021, 07:26:49 AM »
"Roger Moore played Bond as such a lightweight clown than I can't put any of his Bond movies anywhere near the top."

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Had Moore played Bond more like his character in The Saint his movies would have been a LOT better. But, I suspect that the writers and directors were working to actually avoid that comparison.
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #65 on: September 30, 2021, 01:31:28 PM »
https://babylonbee.com/news/james-bond-to-stay-male-will-be-played-by-elliot-page

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We are pleased to announce that we have chosen male actor Elliot Page to play James Bond!" said a spokesperson. "James Bond has always been a man, and we want to be true to that legacy."
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There is currently no official word on who will play the main Bond girl in the next film, although sources say it will be Caitlyn Jenner.
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #66 on: October 03, 2021, 12:39:16 PM »
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #67 on: October 03, 2021, 01:01:29 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eBU98w7PGI

Doesn't sound terrible.

Wait -- Felix Leitner?

Wasn't he killed off decades ago?
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #68 on: October 03, 2021, 01:39:08 PM »
Wait -- Felix Leitner?

Wasn't he killed off decades ago?

No, but Leiter was kidnapped, tortured and nearly killed by drug lord Franz Sanchez in "License to Kill".  Leiter's new wife was killed during this event that occurred on the day of their wedding.
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« Reply #69 on: October 03, 2021, 01:41:27 PM »
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« Reply #70 on: October 03, 2021, 01:43:49 PM »
^^^ Thanks.

Memory is fleeting.

So is glory, according to the closing scene of "Patton", but I digress.
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« Reply #71 on: October 04, 2021, 02:45:10 AM »
No, but Leiter was kidnapped, tortured and nearly killed by drug lord Franz Sanchez in "License to Kill".  Leiter's new wife was killed during this event that occurred on the day of their wedding.

It's been a while, but didn't Felix get fed to the sharks?

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« Reply #72 on: October 04, 2021, 08:55:35 AM »
It's been a while, but didn't Felix get fed to the sharks?

Yep, Sanchez suspended Leiter from a hook over a shark tank.  A shark had one of Leiter's legs and part of an arm for a snack.  Bond found him in time to save his life.
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« Reply #73 on: October 04, 2021, 10:06:42 AM »
Yep, Sanchez suspended Leiter from a hook over a shark tank.  A shark had one of Leiter's legs and part of an arm for a snack.  Bond found him in time to save his life.

Saw that movie in the theater. Barely remember it.

Remember  A View to a Kill a LOT better. Christopher Walken and Grace Jones made that one pretty fun, despite Roger Moore.
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Re: The new James Bond movie: No time to die
« Reply #74 on: October 04, 2021, 10:13:30 AM »
Saw that movie in the theater. Barely remember it.

Remember  A View to a Kill a LOT better. Christopher Walken and Grace Jones made that one pretty fun, despite Roger Moore.

That one was a movie or two too far for Moore
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