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MechAg94

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Re: Biden Budget proposal and total financial tracking
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2021, 06:44:57 AM »

It is a 4th amendment violation for the government to collect this info itself.  The dodge is private corporations collect the info and then give or sell it to the government.
Which should still be a 4th amendment violation, but too many squishy judges don't throw out those arguments.
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Re: Biden Budget proposal and total financial tracking
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2021, 11:07:30 AM »

Which should still be a 4th amendment violation, but too many squishy judges don't throw out those arguments.

You misspelled complicit.

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Re: Biden Budget proposal and total financial tracking
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2021, 11:24:46 AM »

Ayn Rand was ahead of the game in  Atlas Shrugged

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“Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”
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Re: Biden Budget proposal and total financial tracking
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2021, 12:46:34 PM »

Get people to put their money in cash, then inflate the *expletive deleted*it out of it and voila!

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Re: Biden Budget proposal and total financial tracking
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2021, 12:50:57 PM »

Get people to put their money in cash, then inflate the *expletive deleted*it out of it and voila!

Yep. Even now any large cash holding is dumb. Convert to something useful or just spend it for fun.
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Re: Biden Budget proposal and total financial tracking
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2021, 11:29:19 PM »

Invest in precious metals, brass, copper, lead...
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Re: Biden Budget proposal and total financial tracking
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2021, 11:58:09 PM »

Invest in precious metals, brass, copper, lead...

My 22LR stocks are doing well. Primers better than Dogecoin.
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Re: Biden Budget proposal and total financial tracking
« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2021, 10:43:42 AM »

Which should still be a 4th amendment violation, but too many squishy judges don't throw out those arguments.

I agree... getting a person's bank records should require a warrant.  It is an obvious fourth amendment issue.  Unfortunately, the Supreme Court is full of weasels.  You have a right to privacy in your "papers" but that doesn't include bank records?!?!?   :mad:

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Re: Biden Budget proposal and total financial tracking
« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2021, 12:06:56 PM »

I agree... getting a person's bank records should require a warrant.  It is an obvious fourth amendment issue.  Unfortunately, the Supreme Court is full of weasels.  You have a right to privacy in your "papers" but that doesn't include bank records?!?!?   :mad:
I heard someone talking about that not too far back.  They mentioned that people should retain ownership of their information no matter how it was obtained by the govt or 3rd party.  That would mean the govt shouldn't use it without permission/payment and neither should a 3rd party like Facebook or Google.  Wishful thinking with politicians these days.
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Re: Biden Budget proposal and total financial tracking
« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2021, 01:02:39 PM »

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Re: Biden Budget proposal and total financial tracking
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2021, 04:15:34 PM »

House bill would exempt "local news journalists" from employment taxes:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/09/14/straight-up-payoff-house-democrats-are-definitely-taking-care-of-their-base-exempting-this-group-from-employment-taxes/

Democrats taking care of their own.

This no doubt includes the jobless "local journalists" covering the actions of their Antifa storm troopers.
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Re: Biden Budget proposal and total financial tracking
« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2021, 12:27:24 AM »

Ahh, but you see, they're planning on "compromising" on that, with the "compromising" on that dollar value lending legitimacy to the concept as a whole, with subsequent "compromises" ultimately leading right back to their ultimate goal.

Oh, you naďve  conservatives!  MMM-BWAH-HAH-ha-ha-hahhhhh....

         

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Re: Biden Budget proposal and total financial tracking
« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2021, 12:30:58 AM »

"It's good, though..."

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Re: Biden Budget proposal and total financial tracking
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2021, 03:33:20 PM »



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