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Re: Illegal immigrants there, not here
« Reply #350 on: April 16, 2024, 11:56:28 AM »
Non-Government Organization.  In this context a non profit that operates independently from governments to address social or political issues.

Accurate dictionary definition. That "independently" doesn't always play off IRL, with the NGO working the grey area and doing things for a gov agency that said agency would get an IG investigation for.

That really got its legs under Obama. in my AO of the gov, I first saw the political appointees with an NGO background, then they hired their NGO buddies at the SES level, then those guys hired GS-15s, and that's where the NGOs really get entrenched in a deep state kinda way. Within a couple of years, it was quite common for me to run into GS-11s thru 14s whose last gig was Environmental Defense Center or similar, and, "Yeah, GS-15 Bob who I used to work for brought me in."
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Re: Illegal immigrants there, not here
« Reply #351 on: April 16, 2024, 02:10:04 PM »
From the Post Millennial:

Illegal immigrant stabs two others, flees back into Mexico after being shot by National Guardsman

Headline kinda says it all.  I guess the National Guard has ammo after all.

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Re: Illegal immigrants there, not here
« Reply #352 on: April 16, 2024, 04:50:20 PM »
Finally someone on the left side of the spectrum has called out mayors of Liberal cities who started to cry buckets when Texas started to ship them illegal immigrants so that they could have sanctuary.

Bill Maher even called them hypocrites.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/bill-maher-rips-sanctuary-city-hypocrites-turning-away-migrants-abbott-desantis-called-bluff
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Re: Illegal immigrants there, not here
« Reply #353 on: April 16, 2024, 05:23:08 PM »
Finally someone on the left side of the spectrum has called out mayors of Liberal cities who started to cry buckets when Texas started to ship them illegal immigrants so that they could have sanctuary.

Bill Maher even called them hypocrites.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/bill-maher-rips-sanctuary-city-hypocrites-turning-away-migrants-abbott-desantis-called-bluff

I'm of two minds about some on the left suddenly realizing the border is an issue

1) They feel like they've let in enough illegals to guarantee future elections including 2024.
2) They feel like they haven't let in enough but realized this issue could cost then in 2024 and they need to pause the inflow only to resume it afterwards.
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Re: Illegal immigrants there, not here
« Reply #354 on: April 16, 2024, 09:22:50 PM »
I’m in Tucson AZ as we speak

First time I came here under Orange Man Bad with Kids in Cages you saw the border patrol constantly, everywhere.

In 2024 under Biden the Great White Hope who Enforces the Border More Than Any Other President, I have yet to see a single border patrol vehicle or officer since arriving here on Sunday. 
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Re: Illegal immigrants there, not here
« Reply #355 on: April 16, 2024, 10:52:09 PM »
I'm of two minds about some on the left suddenly realizing the border is an issue

1) They feel like they've let in enough illegals to guarantee future elections including 2024.
2) They feel like they haven't let in enough but realized this issue could cost then in 2024 and they need to pause the inflow only to resume it afterwards.

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Re: Illegal immigrants there, not here
« Reply #356 on: April 16, 2024, 11:16:34 PM »
What difference does it make now.

The tens of millions of illegals here are never going to be shipped home.

There are already enough of them to ensure national dominance of the democratic party for decades once their offspring start voting.

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Re: Illegal immigrants there, not here
« Reply #357 on: April 17, 2024, 08:45:39 AM »
I am less concerned about them voting than just fake voter registrations and fake votes.
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Re: Illegal immigrants there, not here
« Reply #358 on: April 17, 2024, 09:04:46 AM »
They don't need to vote.  Just be settled in Blue States and be counted in the census.

It's actually better for the Dems if they don't vote.  They might have pesky family values or dislike communisum after their experiences with it.  If they pump up the electoral votes and congressional seats of places like CA, IL, and NY without risking changing the voter base, that meets the goal.

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Re: Illegal immigrants there, not here
« Reply #359 on: April 17, 2024, 09:16:19 AM »
It's actually better for the Dems if they don't vote.  They might have pesky family values or dislike communisum after their experiences with it. 

This seems to be coming out more and more. Proven for legal immigrants. For the illegals, I think the "yay Biden" stuff we see with the illegals on the border is based on news and information they get on the South side. Not just from their own versions of the MSM, but as we have now seen, even NGOs and other manipulators.

Even those that come here looking for free stuff have "conservative" values on many social subjects. Often religion based. Whether Catholic or Muslim, those values are ingrained into them from an early age (Catholic here) and I think they trump any "free stuff" socialist views they have. The whole 100 genders and related stuff is abhorrent to them, and we've certainly seen the shocked faces of white liberals when, for example, they expect to find common ground on transgender rights with Muslim women.
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Re: Illegal immigrants there, not here
« Reply #360 on: April 17, 2024, 09:44:26 AM »
They don't need to vote.  Just be settled in Blue States and be counted in the census.

It's actually better for the Dems if they don't vote.  They might have pesky family values or dislike communisum after their experiences with it. 

They are going to have citizen kids, get huge amounts of welwelfare, and vote mostly left, just like every other non-white group in the entire country.

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Re: Illegal immigrants there, not here
« Reply #361 on: April 17, 2024, 02:48:55 PM »
I am less concerned about them voting than just fake voter registrations and fake votes.

Many years ago, 1996 to be specific, I actually witnessed illegals being given voter registration materials at the DMV in Oregon.  The DMV claimed they were required to because of the motor voter laws in effect.   At that time Oregon would issue drivers licenses to illegals.  OR.gov claimed to have stopped issuing licenses to illegals around 2000, but I believe they restarted the practice a few years later.
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