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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #125 on: November 08, 2021, 02:48:16 PM »
That testimony was.....not great for the state.

For those that don't want to scroll through the live feed the highlights are the defense got Grosskreutz (the dude shot in the arm) to confirm that an earlier person ran up to Kyle, didn't attack, and Kyle held fire, then he admitted that when he was shot, he was moving towards Kyle, three feet away, and pointing a loaded Glock at Kyle.

It seems al though after the lunch break the defense is going to ask him about his roommates tweet where he is quoted as saying that he regrets not mag dumping into Kyle.  But honestly the "Moving forward and pointing a gun at him" part is probably all they needed.  ADA Binger literally put his head in his hands at the prosecution table.

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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #126 on: November 08, 2021, 02:49:04 PM »
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #127 on: November 08, 2021, 04:40:47 PM »
Just wondering - does anyone know of a similar group of woke folk dissecting the trial?
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« Reply #128 on: November 08, 2021, 04:41:26 PM »
Ah, WaPo.  Never change:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/08/gaige-grosskreutz-says-he-feared-his-life-before-kyle-rittenhouse-shot-him-during-kenosha-unrest/

It's behind a pay wall, but really the headline is the funny part.

They neglect to mention that he also said he was pointing a gun at Kyle when he was shot.

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« Reply #129 on: November 08, 2021, 05:52:02 PM »
Ought to fear why he is not up on attempted murder charges and the civil suits I really hope Rittenhouse sends his way.
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« Reply #130 on: November 08, 2021, 05:57:36 PM »
Ought to fear why he is not up on attempted murder charges and the civil suits I really hope Rittenhouse sends his way.

I'm also curious why Grosskreutz hasn't caught any charges.
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« Reply #131 on: November 08, 2021, 05:59:25 PM »
I'm also curious why Grosskreutz hasn't caught any charges.
There's speculation elsewhere that he's a federal informant.
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« Reply #132 on: November 08, 2021, 07:33:15 PM »
I'm also curious why Grosskreutz hasn't caught any charges.

I was under the impression that he was a felon in possession of a firearm.  Is that not.the case?
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« Reply #133 on: November 08, 2021, 08:29:04 PM »
I was under the impression that he was a felon in possession of a firearm.  Is that not.the case?

He's obviously the right kind of felon in possession.
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« Reply #134 on: November 08, 2021, 09:12:34 PM »
Lefty had a misdemeanor charge for being armed while intoxicated.  But no felonies I’m aware of.  But his ccw was expired so in addition to attempted murder/assault with a deadly weapon he should get a charge for illegally carrying concealed.

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« Reply #135 on: November 08, 2021, 09:18:13 PM »
Lots of little accounts on Twitter spittlescreeching that Lefty was a victim of a mass murderer...
 
I wonder how many of them are from boilerrooms...
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« Reply #136 on: November 08, 2021, 09:31:03 PM »
Anyone else get a nagging feeling that the prosecutor persecutor doesn't give a damn because he already knows he will get full convictions on all counts in the case?
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #137 on: November 08, 2021, 09:33:08 PM »
Just watched the video and man, that “key witness” walked off looking like a fool.  Even killed his $10 M lawsuit he had against Kenosha with his testimony……

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« Reply #138 on: November 08, 2021, 09:35:44 PM »
I spent the day laying tile but I listened to the trial stream. When Gaige was testifying about why he didn’t shoot Kyle he said something along the lines of he couldn’t have done it because taking a life ran contrary to his purpose as a medic or something. I was totally bewildered that the defense didn’t ask the question: “if taking a life is completely against your moral code, why do you routinely carry a loaded gun for the stated purpose of personal protection?”

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« Reply #139 on: November 08, 2021, 09:51:23 PM »
He's obviously the right kind of felon in possession.

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« Reply #140 on: November 09, 2021, 12:51:42 AM »
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« Reply #142 on: November 09, 2021, 07:10:53 AM »
Come on baby, lets do the twist

‘If you want to understand why no one trusts the press’: AG Hamilton looks at some headlines on the Kyle Rittenhouse trial
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/11/08/if-you-want-to-understand-why-no-one-trust-the-press-ag-hamilton-looks-at-some-headlines-on-the-kyle-rittenhouse-trial/

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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #143 on: November 09, 2021, 08:23:42 AM »
I spent the day laying tile but I listened to the trial stream. When Gaige was testifying about why he didn’t shoot Kyle he said something along the lines of he couldn’t have done it because taking a life ran contrary to his purpose as a medic or something. I was totally bewildered that the defense didn’t ask the question: “if taking a life is completely against your moral code, why do you routinely carry a loaded gun for the stated purpose of personal protection?”

Also, if he's such a dedicated medic, when Rittenhouse shot the skateboard dude, why didn't the dedicated medic rush to treat the skateboard dude instead of rushing to point a gun at Rittenhouse?
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #144 on: November 09, 2021, 09:02:06 AM »
I spent the day laying tile but I listened to the trial stream. When Gaige was testifying about why he didn’t shoot Kyle he said something along the lines of he couldn’t have done it because taking a life ran contrary to his purpose as a medic or something. I was totally bewildered that the defense didn’t ask the question: “if taking a life is completely against your moral code, why do you routinely carry a loaded gun for the stated purpose of personal protection?”
I think that guy corrupted his own testimony and they got the key admission in before lunch (or so I heard).  I think the defense can call him back later if they wish to, but they got the important part they needed (IMO).  I would think going after every little point might get tedious and make the jury forget the main admission.
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« Reply #145 on: November 09, 2021, 09:55:08 AM »
I would think going after every little point might get tedious and make the jury forget the main admission.
That could be.  It just stood out to me as a low hanging fruit to impeach his credibility.

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« Reply #146 on: November 09, 2021, 10:28:53 AM »
His credibility is already gone to anybody listening.  He said he was approaching Rittenhouse because he was concerned for his (Rittenhouse's) safety after getting hit in the head with a skateboard.  He had the gun in his hand because he thought there was an active shooter, but couldn't ever shoot someone because of his "do no harm" oath.  And after chasing him (with a Glock in his hand), then backing away, he couldn't really explain why he lunged at Rittenhouse with his pistol accidentally pointed at him.
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« Reply #147 on: November 09, 2021, 10:34:13 AM »
His credibility is already gone to anybody listening.
I agree, but lawyers love to make explicit what should have been implicitly understood.

The judge mentioned at the beginning of the trial today that someone was videoing the jurors at the pickup and police forced them to delete the video.  He also said he gave orders that if it happens again they are to take the phone.

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« Reply #148 on: November 09, 2021, 10:36:08 AM »
I agree, but lawyers love to make explicit what should have been implicitly understood.

The judge mentioned at the beginning of the trial today that someone was videoing the jurors at the pickup and police forced them to delete the video.  He also said he gave orders that if it happens again they are to take the phone.

Sadly, if they already caught one guy, a half a dozen probably got away.
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« Reply #149 on: November 09, 2021, 10:36:11 AM »
That could be.  It just stood out to me as a low hanging fruit to impeach his credibility.

He just won the case for the defense. Why would they want to impeach his credibility?
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