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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #525 on: November 18, 2021, 10:37:26 PM »
Fits a pattern

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One of the two protesters arrested outside the Kenosha courthouse – the man seen wearing a "F*** Kyle" t-shirt as officers took him into custody – is facing charges related to bail jumping, meaning he has a prior criminal record, Fox News Digital has learned.

Anti-Rittenhouse protestor body-slams reporter outside Kenosha courthouse, arrested for battery
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/anti-rittenhouse-protestor-body-slams-reporter-outside-kenosha-courthouse-arrested-for-battery/ar-AAQRGg7?ocid=msedgntp
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #526 on: November 19, 2021, 07:39:09 AM »
No.  Not in my adult lifetime, anyway.

That's part of the meme.  :facepalm:

This should really be another topic, but once again the left has hijacked the term and changed its meaning.

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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #527 on: November 19, 2021, 11:20:11 AM »
Maybe it's just because there's nothing else going on with the case at the moment, but a lot of people taking issue with this:
In the Kyle Rittenhouse murder trial, Judge Schroeder granted the request of “a female juror” to bring home a full set of the court’s instructions on the law when he once again ended the trial day before dusk on the third day of deliberations.
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A good judge would have either sent the jurors out of the room or taken the lawyers to a sidebar where the request could be discussed without the jurors being apprised of which side was objecting and why. (For that matter, a good judge would not have needed input from the lawyers to understand why a request of this sort should be politely denied.) Schroeder, by contrast, pondered the matter in his ponderous way and foolishly agreed to the request without asking for counsels’ positions.
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That is, Schroeder first made the bad decision and only then made a record about why it was a bad decision. When he noted the defense lawyers’ apparent but muted disapproval when the juror made the request, Mark Richards, one of Rittenhouse’s attorneys, opined that the jurors might do an Internet research on the instructions.
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The proper objection would have been that the jury is supposed to deliberate as a jury.

While I agree with the later points he makes about keeping them longer or sequestering them, taking the instructions doesn't seem unreasonable. Are you really not supposed to even think about a case without the rest of the jury being present? Maybe it's because I've never been on a jury, but it just doesn't seem like a big deal.
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #528 on: November 19, 2021, 12:03:00 PM »
A plan is just a list of things that doesn't happen.
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #529 on: November 19, 2021, 12:15:00 PM »
Verdict comes today while Kamala is President . Dark green helicopters everywhere.....  [tinfoil] I get my foil at Costco, got plenty
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #530 on: November 19, 2021, 12:21:02 PM »
Maybe it's just because there's nothing else going on with the case at the moment, but a lot of people taking issue with this:
While I agree with the later points he makes about keeping them longer or sequestering them, taking the instructions doesn't seem unreasonable. Are you really not supposed to even think about a case without the rest of the jury being present? Maybe it's because I've never been on a jury, but it just doesn't seem like a big deal.

If anything, I think I'd argue the opposite.  Justice is probably best served if, after discussing matters with other jurors, each member was able to take some time alone to think about it and process the situation for themselves.

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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #531 on: November 19, 2021, 12:23:36 PM »
Correia has a post that jurors mentioned the media coverage when entering the court today. So much for not watching the news.
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #532 on: November 19, 2021, 12:47:02 PM »
Drop kick man fully identified with identity released. Said he offered to testify for the prosecution, prosecutors claimed they never spoke to him and didn't know who he was.

Video of Kyle and car lot owners surfaces, goes against the prosecutor's claim.
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #533 on: November 19, 2021, 01:08:50 PM »
##  Verdict in, about to be read  ##


Not guilty!!
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #534 on: November 19, 2021, 01:14:25 PM »
Not guilty across the board.

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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #535 on: November 19, 2021, 01:16:26 PM »
Let the festivities begin!
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #536 on: November 19, 2021, 01:17:29 PM »
Let the festivities begin!

You mean, "peaceful demonstrations."

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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #537 on: November 19, 2021, 01:18:29 PM »
You mean, "peaceful demonstrations."

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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #538 on: November 19, 2021, 01:19:51 PM »
Let the festivities begin!

Yup.  Some folks will be getting a head start on their Christmas shopping.


Also, let the defamation lawsuits begin.  There is a long list of potential defendants.
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #539 on: November 19, 2021, 01:24:21 PM »
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We can’t even begin to imagine how Kyle Rittenhouse is feeling right now.

But one thing’s for sure:

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    — Noam Blum (@neontaster) November 19, 2021
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/11/19/breaking-kyle-rittenhouse-found-not-guilty-on-all-counts/
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #540 on: November 19, 2021, 01:29:49 PM »
I have almost no doubt Biden and members of congress will be characterizing this as a miscarriage of justice and federal hate crime charges are filed.
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #541 on: November 19, 2021, 01:31:19 PM »
Wow! I was expecting at least some not guilty verdicts on some stuff, but really was afraid they were still going to pop him on some lesser charge (even though he wasn't guilty) to attempt to appease the mob. Good for Kyle.

Good on this jury. I feel bad for them now though - they will definitely need some protection for a while, and I hope they don't end up getting fired from jobs or other cancel culture stuff.
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #542 on: November 19, 2021, 01:33:22 PM »
MSNBC and CNN printed their addresses yet?
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #543 on: November 19, 2021, 01:34:43 PM »
Took freaking long enough!!

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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #544 on: November 19, 2021, 01:41:59 PM »
Pleasantly surprised.

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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #545 on: November 19, 2021, 01:45:09 PM »
I am absolutely gob smacked. Very glad to see almost actual "justice" for a change. Actual justice would have happened if his acts would have been recognized as the self defense they were and he had not been charged in the first place.
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #546 on: November 19, 2021, 01:49:14 PM »
Hopefully the feds will not charge him and escalate the persecution.
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #547 on: November 19, 2021, 01:53:27 PM »
I am surprised: I thought it would be a mixed bag of not guilty on the major charges and guilty on the lesser ones (counts 2 and 3).
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #548 on: November 19, 2021, 01:54:48 PM »
I’m in downtown Chicago until Sunday morning. Police all over in groups of 4-8. So far, the natives are calm. Tomorrow night is the big holiday parade on Michigan ave and the streets will be packed. I will be sequestered with a bottle of wine and watching from the 25th floor of the Marriott
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Re: Rittenhouse trial
« Reply #549 on: November 19, 2021, 01:59:53 PM »
Rats usually come out at night
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