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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2022, 11:13:06 AM »
I fully agree with Sheldon Cooper on Babylon 5. It fails on multiple levels...

There's cringy moments, sure.  But where it works, the story arcs, it works.
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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2022, 11:45:52 AM »
I fully agree with Sheldon Cooper on Babylon 5. It fails on multiple levels...
What did he say?  I don't watch that show.  Was he referring to "realistic physics" in the show?   

I rewatched B5 not long ago.  I think it is a good show and worth watching.  For 1990's TV SciFi, it did pretty well.  Takes some episodes for the character development to get off the ground.
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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2022, 12:06:41 PM »
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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2022, 12:11:42 PM »
Why should I care what a irritating fictional character on a comedy show thinks?
I like B5 and  :P to anyone who doesn't.
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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2022, 12:15:58 PM »
Sheldon Cooper on Babylon 5...

https://b5books.com/babylon-5-on-the-big-bang-theory/
Thanks.  Doesn't say much.  I would be curious what people think it is "derivative" of (if anyone does) since it first aired in 1993. 

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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2022, 12:31:29 PM »
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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2022, 12:40:20 PM »
This is my favorite scene from In the Beginning:

https://youtu.be/ZIT9DlQoH48
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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2022, 01:19:31 PM »
Why should I care what a irritating fictional character on a comedy show thinks?
I like B5 and  :P to anyone who doesn't.

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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2022, 01:41:57 PM »
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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2022, 01:48:41 PM »
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”

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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2022, 01:57:41 PM »
You really don't know how the internet works, do you?
You and I might be on a different internet.   =)
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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2022, 02:01:12 PM »
Everything falls apart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDzvp2dD-YA

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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2022, 02:03:38 PM »
"I'm a foolish old man that has been drawn into a wild goose chase by a harpy in trousers and a nincompoop."

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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2022, 02:11:33 PM »
And towards the end of that episode:

https://youtu.be/DtNtw2HTFtA

The look of total weariness at second 45.  "Jump points opening all around us!"  "How many?"   "Four"
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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2022, 02:21:29 PM »
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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2022, 02:32:25 PM »
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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2022, 02:34:47 PM »
Everything falls apart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDzvp2dD-YA

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    Madness!  Total and complete madness!  This never would have happened if the humans hadn't started fighting each other.


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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #42 on: August 18, 2022, 02:35:28 PM »
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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #43 on: August 18, 2022, 02:36:59 PM »
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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #44 on: August 18, 2022, 02:38:49 PM »
I like how this story arc closed . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47DfQcHMYLY
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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2022, 03:00:24 PM »
Why should I care what a irritating fictional character on a comedy show thinks?

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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2022, 04:45:07 PM »
That's no way to talk about K Frame.


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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2022, 05:14:56 PM »
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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2022, 06:40:37 PM »
Thanks.  Doesn't say much.  I would be curious what people think it is "derivative" of (if anyone does) since it first aired in 1993.

It's just painful to watch.  The story isn't engaging, the space scenes rely too heavily upon CGI while the scenes involving aliens rely too heavily on cheap practical effects that go too far while not accomplishing enough.  Less is more when it comes to representing convergent evolution of sentient bipedal life forms.  The sets are also too small.  It's a 5 mile long space station but all the scenes are shot in tiny little rooms.  The deck of Kirk's original Enterprise is larger than most B5 sets.

The space CGI scenes in B5 are nearly as bad as those from The Last Starfighter.  Except The Last Starfighter was made 12 years earlier and was novel in how they chose to emulate the graphics from the in-movie arcade game when rendering space combat.  B5 doesn't have any sort of meta-reference to itself, it just has bad effects.  It's bad in the same way that the Ray Harryhausen clay stop motion animation is bad in Jason and the Argonauts or Clash of the Titans.

Beyond all that though, it's cursed with the same problem as DS9.  Space Stations suck as settings for a long-running show.  Space craft are great settings.  Space Stations are stagnant.  Think about it in a parallel context:  would you rather watch a film based on Lewis & Clark's journey across the US?  Or would you rather watch a film based on a few years of history of a particular frontier fort... say Fort Snelling in Minnesota?
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Re: Babylon 5 Reboot
« Reply #49 on: August 18, 2022, 09:29:47 PM »
. . .  Think about it in a parallel context:  would you rather watch a film based on Lewis & Clark's journey across the US?  Or would you rather watch a film based on a few years of history of a particular frontier fort... say Fort Snelling in Minnesota?
They got 2 full seasons (65 episodes back then) of a TV show based at Ft. Courage.
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