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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #50 on: October 04, 2021, 10:53:36 PM »

Pfizer employees on natural immunity vs the vaccine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On5RYFbcxWY

Project Veritas actually identified those employees.  I wonder how long it took Pfizer to terminate them?
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2021, 07:51:57 AM »

Project Veritas actually identified those employees.  I wonder how long it took Pfizer to terminate them?

I usually give Project Veritas a thumbs up, but didn't like this one. Usually the employees (Google, friendface, etc.) are fully Kool-Aid saturated regarding what their employer is doing. These interviewed employees were more in the whistleblower category and should have been protected by Project Veritas.
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2021, 08:17:26 AM »

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/28/1041017591/getting-a-religious-exemption-to-a-vaccine-mandate-may-not-be-easy-heres-whyf

In our healthcare system, the majority of vaccine exemption requests are religious.  The current plan is to initially grant the exemption requests and then HR, Legal, and Pastoral Care will audit them to see if they hold up.  Employees with an exemption will likely be accommodated by weekly testing and continued use of PPE.  The Washington state mandate for healthcare employees leaves exemptions and accommodations thereto up to the discretion of the employer.  Some healthcare and other employers in Washington are granting exemptions but then firing the employee on the basis that the unique requirements of their job cannot be safely accommodated.
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2021, 08:34:29 AM »

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/28/1041017591/getting-a-religious-exemption-to-a-vaccine-mandate-may-not-be-easy-heres-whyf

In our healthcare system, the majority of vaccine exemption requests are religious.  The current plan is to initially grant the exemption requests and then HR, Legal, and Pastoral Care will audit them to see if they hold up.  Employees with an exemption will likely be accommodated by weekly testing and continued use of PPE.  The Washington state mandate for healthcare employees leaves exemptions and accommodations thereto up to the discretion of the employer.  Some healthcare and other employers in Washington are granting exemptions but then firing the employee on the basis that the unique requirements of their job cannot be safely accommodated.

Sounds like religious discrimination to me.
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #54 on: October 05, 2021, 11:02:33 AM »

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/28/1041017591/getting-a-religious-exemption-to-a-vaccine-mandate-may-not-be-easy-heres-whyf

In our healthcare system, the majority of vaccine exemption requests are religious.  The current plan is to initially grant the exemption requests and then HR, Legal, and Pastoral Care will audit them to see if they hold up.  Employees with an exemption will likely be accommodated by weekly testing and continued use of PPE.  The Washington state mandate for healthcare employees leaves exemptions and accommodations thereto up to the discretion of the employer.  Some healthcare and other employers in Washington are granting exemptions but then firing the employee on the basis that the unique requirements of their job cannot be safely accommodated.

That is what my department has done since the vax was available to anyone of working age. If you are vaxxed, you don't need to wear a mask. If you aren't vaxxed, you have to wear a mask anytime you are in the office, unless you are at your desk and not within 6' of anyone. In the field if you are within 6' of anyone outdoors and anytime you are inside at a business/residence/farm. Same if you are in a vehicle for work business with others.
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #55 on: October 05, 2021, 11:21:46 AM »


In our healthcare system, the majority of vaccine exemption requests are religious.  The current plan is to initially grant the exemption requests and then HR, Legal, and Pastoral Care will audit them to see if they hold up.

How are they going to audit? How can they determine whether or not someone's religious belief is sincerely held?

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Employees with an exemption will likely be accommodated by weekly testing and continued use of PPE.  The Washington state mandate for healthcare employees leaves exemptions and accommodations thereto up to the discretion of the employer.  Some healthcare and other employers in Washington are granting exemptions but then firing the employee on the basis that the unique requirements of their job cannot be safely accommodated.

So the PPE was safe and effective as long as everyone was using it, but it's not safe and effective if only people with exemptions are using it? That might be a tough sell before an honest judge (if you can find one).

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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2021, 11:44:19 AM »

How are they going to audit? How can they determine whether or not someone's religious belief is sincerely held?


I can not speak for Millcreek's organization, but from the FRAGO I've seen for DOD, requests for religious exemption have to go through a Command Chaplain who conducts an interview with the soldier requesting an exemption, looks at the soldiers immunization history, and then makes a recommendation to the approving authority on whether or not to approve the request.

So, Yes, they are going try and determine if it's a sincere belief or an excuse, as well as (I think) if the person is correctly interpreting what they claim is their faith.

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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #57 on: October 05, 2021, 04:56:53 PM »

Until you want to go buy groceries.

Fortunately, the two women in my life (in matriarchy - mother and g'mother) were tight-fisted and frugal to an extreme and they taught me well.
My grandmother left Illinois at 16 and went to NYC for work.  And this was about the time of the U.S. getting into WW1 and the "Spanish" flu.  Then she survived the Depression, taking care of her husband and daughter, saving enough for that daughter to go to college.
These women also taught me to be "independent" in many other areas.  I cook, occasionally from scratch, more frequently by modifying bought products, I do my own laundry and cleaning (just not as much as my mother THINKS I should!), and I can even run a sewing machine to hem up my pants or patch certain areas.  I really thank my grandmother for that.
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #58 on: October 05, 2021, 05:22:10 PM »

https://www.bizjournals.com/portland/news/2021/09/29/oregon-vaccine-exemptions-rejections.html?utm_source=st&utm_medium=en&utm_campaign=nch&ana=e_n

According to this, one of our colleague healthcare systems in Oregon is being accused of a blanket denial of religious and most medical exemption requests.
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2021, 05:25:20 PM »

https://www.bizjournals.com/portland/news/2021/09/29/oregon-vaccine-exemptions-rejections.html?utm_source=st&utm_medium=en&utm_campaign=nch&ana=e_n

According to this, one of our colleague healthcare systems in Oregon is being accused of a blanket denial of religious and most medical exemption requests.

I hope they get the *expletive deleted*ck sued out of them
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #60 on: October 05, 2021, 07:00:34 PM »

Fortunately, the two women in my life (in matriarchy - mother and g'mother) were tight-fisted and frugal to an extreme and they taught me well.
My grandmother left Illinois at 16 and went to NYC for work.  And this was about the time of the U.S. getting into WW1 and the "Spanish" flu.  Then she survived the Depression, taking care of her husband and daughter, saving enough for that daughter to go to college.
These women also taught me to be "independent" in many other areas.  I cook, occasionally from scratch, more frequently by modifying bought products, I do my own laundry and cleaning (just not as much as my mother THINKS I should!), and I can even run a sewing machine to hem up my pants or patch certain areas.  I really thank my grandmother for that.

Sounds like you'll make some woman a good little wife someday.  ;)



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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #61 on: October 06, 2021, 07:15:47 AM »

Sounds like you'll make some woman a good little wife someday.  ;)



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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #62 on: October 06, 2021, 11:19:51 AM »

The actual, official memo mandating the vaccine for DOD civilians got to my level today.  Gonna be an emotional event for some folks in the next two weeks.

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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #63 on: October 06, 2021, 11:24:14 AM »

The actual, official memo mandating the vaccine for DOD civilians got to my level today.  Gonna be an emotional event for some folks in the next two weeks.

I'd be surprised if the Governor of Iowa issues an order than all state employees need to be vaccinated or take weekly covid tests. If she does, I'm going to make a lot of popcorn, the shitshow will be epic if people decide that this is the hill they chose to die on.

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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #64 on: October 07, 2021, 03:11:42 PM »

Sounds like you'll make some woman a good little wife someday.  ;)
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I was married for about 8 years in the 80s, and she was both a good cook and friend.  Unfortunately, we found out after our divorce that she had been an undiagnosed manic-depressive and this may have contributed to our split.
A few years later, I entered into a LTR for almost 16 years.  It was unfortunate that she was not nearly as helpful as my wife had been as she left me with an inordinate share of the chores in and around the house and yard.
Both have since passed away and I have been "baching it" for 15 years, so, as you see, I have to take care of everything.
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