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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2021, 06:57:33 PM »
So far no indication of a vax mandate at my employer.  They do require visitors (except from other company divisions) to show proof of vax, no exceptions.  I won’t be surprised to see a mandate eventually, but that’s likely a ways away.

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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2021, 09:02:59 PM »
FWIW HIPPA, in general,  doesn't apply to employers. So an employer asking for a Vax card is not a HIPPA issue, and in that context the card is not PHI.

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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2021, 09:12:24 PM »
Correct. If your employer called your doctor to see if you were vaccinated and the doctor answered, that would be a violation.
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2021, 10:11:15 PM »
I just made a passable fake.  It's not like the stupid things are hard to copy, and the vax lot and expiration dates are easy to find. Worked for one round of international travel and the mask police at the Judas Priest concert couldn't tell/didn't care.

Short of the violent conflict both sides are just begging for, I find the best option is to make fun of the whole stupid mess.
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2021, 02:02:10 AM »
FWIW HIPPA, in general,  doesn't apply to employers. So an employer asking for a Vax card is not a HIPPA issue, and in that context the card is not PHI.

HIPAA doesn't apply to employers, but it is still PHI.  My employer pounds that into my head all the time, and I just had to take my annual mandatory refresher course on it.  So I'm throwing it back at them; either it's sensitive data or it's not.  They want to have it both ways
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2021, 07:30:40 AM »
"I just made a passable fake."

I've heard a rumor that someone at my company was walked out for providing fake vaccination credentials.

Doing the fake vaccine card is cowardly.

Either you have the balls to the stand up to and fight the power, or you're just a poser.
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2021, 08:46:30 AM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/30/us/california-vaccine-mandate-health-care.html

The data is showing that mandates seem to work in the healthcare industry.
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2021, 09:40:15 AM »
I just wish they were wallet size.  The card I have is just a little too big to fit right.

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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2021, 09:42:24 AM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/30/us/california-vaccine-mandate-health-care.html

The data is showing that mandates seem to work in the healthcare industry.

Yes, threatening people’s livelihoods is a great way to get them to fall in line. As is threatening their families and properties. Terrorism works.

But notice they won’t do jack *expletive deleted*it about forcing a mandate on welfare fucksticks. If I have to prove I’m vaccinated to work shouldn’t they have to prove they are vaccinated to get what I’m paying for with my taxes?

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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2021, 10:02:19 AM »
"I just made a passable fake."

I've heard a rumor that someone at my company was walked out for providing fake vaccination credentials.

Doing the fake vaccine card is cowardly.

Either you have the balls to the stand up to and fight the power, or you're just a poser.

A fake vaccine card is standing up to and fighting the power.
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2021, 10:04:10 AM »
A fake vaccine card is standing up to and fighting the power.

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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2021, 10:05:53 AM »
But notice they won’t do jack *expletive deleted*it about forcing a mandate on welfare fucksticks. If I have to prove I’m vaccinated to work shouldn’t they have to prove they are vaccinated to get what I’m paying for with my taxes?

You have my vote. ETA: Now that I think more about this concept, I wonder why some conservative governor somewhere has not issued a mandate in this regard.  You would think it would be popular.  I wonder if there is some legal issue that would prevent this.
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2021, 10:20:48 AM »
I am expected to be reachable 24/7 by phone, email, or text for urgent risk management matters.  The company does not issue cell phones so I do this on my personal phone, realizing the risk that my phone may be subpoenaed and searched in the context of a malpractice or other legal matter.  I accept that minimal risk.

Good case for a cheap burner phone from Walmart.
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2021, 10:22:11 AM »
Yes, threatening people’s livelihoods is a great way to get them to fall in line. As is threatening their families and properties. Terrorism works.

But notice they won’t do jack *expletive deleted*it about forcing a mandate on welfare fucksticks. If I have to prove I’m vaccinated to work shouldn’t they have to prove they are vaccinated to get what I’m paying for with my taxes?
Shouldn't illegal aliens grabbed by INS down by the Mexican border have to prove they're vaccinated before they're released into the USA?*





* - trick question, they should only be released back into Mexico.
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2021, 10:32:55 AM »
Shouldn't illegal aliens grabbed by INS down by the Mexican border have to prove they're vaccinated before they're released into the USA?*





* - trick question, they should only be released back into Mexico.

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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2021, 11:53:37 AM »
Yes, threatening people’s livelihoods is a great way to get them to fall in line. As is threatening their families and properties. Terrorism works.

But notice they won’t do jack *expletive deleted*it about forcing a mandate on welfare fucksticks. If I have to prove I’m vaccinated to work shouldn’t they have to prove they are vaccinated to get what I’m paying for with my taxes?

Indeed it does.  On some.

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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2021, 12:56:14 PM »
You probably shouldn't believe anything not within the scope of your own perceptions.

Yeah, and?

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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2021, 02:46:29 PM »
Yes, threatening people’s livelihoods is a great way to get them to fall in line. As is threatening their families and properties. Terrorism works.
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2021, 05:51:23 PM »
"I just made a passable fake."

I've heard a rumor that someone at my company was walked out for providing fake vaccination credentials.

Doing the fake vaccine card is cowardly.

Either you have the balls to the stand up to and fight the power, or you're just a poser.

Why is it cowardly for going to a concert and traveling? I should've demanded access and made a scene?  Or I could make a mockery of the whole stupid thing  and laugh at their pointless measures and enjoy some metal. 
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2021, 11:09:28 PM »
When I read threads like this, it makes me glad that I'm retired and don't have to deal with this "excrement".  :old:  :rofl:
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2021, 11:41:28 PM »
When I read threads like this, it makes me glad that I'm retired and don't have to deal with this "excrement".  :old:  :rofl:

Until you want to go buy groceries.
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2021, 01:43:16 AM »
I'm sitting here wondering if/when the VA is going to require "the jab" if you want to enter their facilities for health care. It could easily happen...
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #47 on: October 02, 2021, 11:36:35 AM »
I'm sitting here wondering if/when the VA is going to require "the jab" if you want to enter their facilities for health care. It could easily happen...
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The VA sent me a text message a couple of days ago asking if I want a booster. Boosters will be available mid-October.

Coincidentally, right about then I also saw a plethora or articles about people developing blood clots and dying within days (or hours) after getting a third jab of the Pfizer (which is what my VA hospital distributes). I think I'll take a pass this time around.
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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #48 on: October 02, 2021, 02:53:14 PM »
I got both Maderna shots (last one in April) and I’m not interested in any boosters.

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Re: My company lowers the vax mandate hammer on us employees
« Reply #49 on: October 04, 2021, 08:47:54 PM »
Pfizer employees on natural immunity vs the vaccine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On5RYFbcxWY
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