Southwest Airline delays

[Boomhauer]

Private companies aren't really private. For all practical purposes we are experiencing global fascism and our Fed Gov is on board with the system.

The government, financial and media corporations are pretty much using every lever of manipulation at their disposal to make sure all large corporations obey. They are obeying.

Defending corporate tyranny imposed by corporations under color of law is not defending freedom. It's defending government/corporate tyranny. Fascism.

You will obey. It won't be men with guns making you but corporations.

The Dems have figured this out perfectly. No need for big gov to force it when their close allies the big corporations will. Want to work? Good luck unless you follow our demands about whatever. Free speech? Gone, not by government action but speaking your mind will get you canceled and blacklisted from society. The landlords that are telling tenants they HAVE to have the vax? Now affecting your housing.

All this *expletive deleted*it has happened at this point.

In Nazi Germany the companies were as big of a driver of the policies and growth of the Third Reich as the government was, just like is happening today.

[230RN]

<opinion>

Once you enter any PR field...  spokesman, announcer, Media Relations, Press Secretary, Reichminister, whatever, there is no such a thing as a lie.  That's why you get the big bucks.

There is truth, if it goes your client's way, but otherwise, there is no lie, no dishonor, no shame, no eternal punishment, no self-reproach.

</opinion>

[Fly320s]

Is the culture / political leanings of Southwest pilots really that different than other airlines? I don't fly much, and even when I do I've never paid much attention to which carrier it is. Is there something unique about Southwest (or United) that attracts different pilots?

We pilots are all the same:  Big egos, big watches, small dic fortunes. 

Southwest pilots have an old reputation for flying fast and being cowboys, but that isn't too accurate anymore.

American is known for flying slow and taxiing slower.

Delta is known for "wind check."  That must be in their SOPs.

United is known for complaining about everything.

[BlueStarLizzard]

*chuckle* I'm sorry but I think it's a little silly to be worried about big businesses being unduly influenced by the current administration at the moment.

The reason being right at this moment it's not big business or any business holding the real power in the supply and demand chain. It's the workers. If this is about the vaccine, Southwest is going to change their tune or go under. There's just no way they can hold out long enough to replace skilled workers. They won't be able to get unskilled workers.

And I don't think we are so far gone that the federal government can step in and force people back to work.

[Angel Eyes]

United is known for complaining about everything.

And smashing guitars.

And killing puppies.

[Andiron]

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Seconded.

Welll said, Tokugawa

[zahc]

*chuckle* I'm sorry but I think it's a little silly to be worried about big businesses being unduly influenced by the current administration at the moment.

The reason being right at this moment it's not big business or any business holding the real power in the supply and demand chain. It's the workers. If this is about the vaccine, Southwest is going to change their tune or go under. There's just no way they can hold out long enough to replace skilled workers. They won't be able to get unskilled workers.

And I don't think we are so far gone that the federal government can step in and force people back to work.

You have a point. Actually, airline pilots seem like a really good, visible hill to fight on. Pretty hard to explain it away when the planes can't take off and people need to get places. If only they would band together, but laborers in the US never flex their muscle, even when they have leverage. My counterparts in France consider US workers to be spineless pussies based on what they put up with and how they never strike or push back on anything.

[Bogie]

I have sick leave saved up. And about a week of vacation that I have to use in the next two-three months.
 
I may have to get covid-tested soon. Mandatory 10 day hiatus.
 
Anyone want a flash hider or muzzle brake? I will probably ramp that up again...

[Ron]

More information about the weather related delays

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/southwest-caves-ditches-plan-put-unvaccinated-staff-unpaid-leave-dec

One day after hundreds of Southwest Airlines employees protested outside the carrier's Dallas headquarters against the company's pending Covid-19 vaccine mandate, the company has caved.

DALLAS TX: Southwest employees chant “LET’S GO BRANDON” in front of the South West headquarters to protest the airline vaccine mandate



— Drew Hernandez (@DrewHLive) October 18, 2021
According to CNBC, the airline has scrapped a plan to place unvaxxed employees who have applied for - but not yet received a religious or medical exemption, on unpaid leave starting Dec. 8.

Southwest Airlines and American Airlines are among the carriers that are federal contractors and subject to a Biden administration requirement that their employees are vaccinated against Covid-19 by Dec. 8 unless they are exempt for medical or religious reasons. Rules for federal contractors are stricter than those expected for large companies, which will allow for regular Covid testing as an alterative to a vaccination. -CNBC]

[WLJ]

American having issues

American Airlines cancels more than 1,000 flights over Halloween weekend
https://nypost.com/2021/10/31/american-airlines-cancels-more-than-1000-flights-over-halloween-weekend/

[HankB]

We should make more use of US airlines - check our toxic and nuclear waste as baggage, and no human being will ever see it again. (Kind of like shipping guns through the USPS to a destination that means they'll be routed through Chicago.)

[K Frame]

Just heard from my friend. His son Derek is the newly hired pilot for American (he's not started his jet training yet).

They went to Albuquerque this weekend for a family trip before Derek starts work and moves to Dallas...

And now they're not sure when they're going to be able to get home.

[Jim147]

Just heard from my friend. His son Derek is the newly hired pilot for American (he's not started his jet training yet).

They went to Albuquerque this weekend for a family trip before Derek starts work and moves to Dallas...

And now they're not sure when they're going to be able to get home.

Uber?

[WLJ]

And it continues

"bad weather" is causing a shortage of pilots and flight attendants 

American Airlines cancels hundreds of additional flights on Sunday
https://www.wlky.com/article/american-airlines-cancels-flights-sunday/38115887#

[RocketMan]

I flew from Charlotte, NC to Portland, OR on Saturday to visit my Dad for a week.  Due to family circumstances I haven't seen him in two years.  Normally I fly American Airlines because they have non-stop flights between CLT and PDX.  Glad I went United this time around.

[K Frame]

Apparently bad weather is causing about 1/10 of the issues.

Everything else is apparently resistance to the mandates.

[dogmush]

Apparently bad weather is causing about 1/10 of the issues.

Everything else is apparently resistance to the mandates.

While that's believable, that's the kind of statement that requires some evidence backing it up.

The explanation for the cancelled flights that the airline offered up in the linked article is also credible.

[K Frame]

While that's believable, that's the kind of statement that requires some evidence backing it up.

The explanation for the cancelled flights that the airline offered up in the linked article is also credible.

Well, that came from my nephew Derek, the pilot for American, so I'm assuming he got it through pilot channels.

Of course, that could be skewed by personal interests... then again, so could the "corporate explanation."

[WLJ]

More than 2,000 flights canceled on Christmas Eve
https://www.wlky.com/article/flight-cancellations-christmas-eve-2021/38606476