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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2021, 06:49:21 PM »

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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2021, 07:28:16 PM »

The higher end battery chainsaws have gotten quite good.  In the 45cc and under engine class I’d be strongly tempted to get a battery saw.  Particularly if you usually only use the saw a few times a year.  Just no needing to mess around with gas that can go bad, carbs that can get varnished, etc would be a big bonus.

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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2021, 07:37:30 PM »

The higher end battery chainsaws have gotten quite good.  In the 45cc and under engine class I’d be strongly tempted to get a battery saw.  Particularly if you usually only use the saw a few times a year.  Just no needing to mess around with gas that can go bad, carbs that can get varnished, etc would be a big bonus.

They are better for bayonets, too.

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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2021, 07:45:29 PM »

The higher end battery chainsaws have gotten quite good.  In the 45cc and under engine class I’d be strongly tempted to get a battery saw.  Particularly if you usually only use the saw a few times a year.  Just no needing to mess around with gas that can go bad, carbs that can get varnished, etc would be a big bonus.

Milwaukee saw with a 12 amp hour battery is one heck of a tool. Until the battery dies and your commie state banned generators.
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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2021, 07:55:33 PM »

I have a battery chainsaw. It is great for clearing the cottonwoods out of the driveway when we get an overnight storm. Just need to have it charged and full of oil.

For real wood cutting, mostly hedge, I use the the gas saws. I have several.
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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2021, 08:46:01 PM »

One wonders if Kali will soon put up customs inspection facilities at all border crossings. (Except the southern ones, of course.)

They actually do have border stations. I've always been waved through, good for me since I'm usually transporting totally Cali legal firearm stuff when I do...  :angel: :police:
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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2021, 08:50:08 PM »

Doesn't seem to actually mention what a "small engine" is. I wonder if this would also affect gas powered remote control vehicles. Or things like mopeds/scooters.
"so I ended up getting the above because I didn't want to make a whole production of sticking something between my knees and cranking. To me, the cranking on mine is pretty effortless, at least on the coarse setting. Maybe if someone has arthritis or something, it would be more difficult for them." - Ben

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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2021, 09:46:26 PM »

They actually do have border stations. I've always been waved through, good for me since I'm usually transporting totally Cali legal firearm stuff when I do...  :angel: :police:
I didn't know that - the times I've been to Kali, I always arrived & departed via air, never by road.
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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2021, 10:46:34 PM »

Doesn't seem to actually mention what a "small engine" is. I wonder if this would also affect gas powered remote control vehicles. Or things like mopeds/scooters.

Like most laws the politicians have no idea what anything is. Most have never worked for a living and have zero common sense.
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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2021, 10:49:22 PM »

I took a look through the rest of the section that's being amended, and didn't see a definition anywhere.

The whole thing is pretty poorly defined and will therefore be subject to interpretation.

Like most laws the politicians have no idea what anything is. Most have never worked for a living and have zero common sense.

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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2021, 01:57:05 PM »

I expect it won't be too many years before California ban standard gas cars either.

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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2021, 02:20:55 PM »

I expect it won't be too many years before California ban standard gas cars either.

I think they already did.  No sales of new gas cars after 2035, I think.

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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2021, 02:25:21 PM »

I took a look through the rest of the section that's being amended, and didn't see a definition anywhere.

The whole thing is pretty poorly defined and will therefore be subject to interpretation.

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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2021, 02:43:52 PM »

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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2021, 03:28:54 PM »

This discussion reminded me that I hadn't run my generator in quite some time.  Took it out this afternoon while I was leaf blowing the yard with my gas powered blower.  The generator fired right up and I let it run for about a half hour while I removed leaves from the yard.
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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2021, 03:55:25 PM »

This discussion reminded me that I hadn't run my generator in quite some time.  Took it out this afternoon while I was leaf blowing the yard with my gas powered blower.  The generator fired right up and I let it run for about a half hour while I removed leaves from the yard.

I may overdo it, but I do that once a month. Recurring alarm on the calendar app. Start 'er up and fiddle with other stuff for 15-30 min. I figure it's a good way to keep fuel moving through the system over the year and it lets the battery do something other than drain (though mine also has a pull cord if the battery dies, but it's a bitch to yank on that big engine). I also try to put a load on it once in a while as well.
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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2021, 04:05:49 PM »

Mine is in the shed in front of my mower, so every couple weeks I pull it out and start it, then let it run while I mow the lawn.  Keeps it exercised.

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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2021, 05:18:46 PM »

I would be running some kind of load on to make sure it does more than start and run.

My three phase ran great for years until on day voltage went wonky. Low voltage in one leg and really high on another.
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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2021, 05:26:45 PM »

I think they already did.  No sales of new gas cars after 2035, I think.

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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2021, 06:19:52 PM »

I would be running some kind of load on to make sure it does more than start and run.

My three phase ran great for years until on day voltage went wonky. Low voltage in one leg and really high on another.

Very true, and I've done that in the past.  It was explained to me by some folks that were load banking the genset where I used to work that it keeps shellac from building up on the commutators.  Don't know if that's an accurate statement as I've never researched it's veracity.
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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2021, 06:43:12 PM »

Very true, and I've done that in the past.  It was explained to me by some folks that were load banking the genset where I used to work that it keeps shellac from building up on the commutators.  Don't know if that's an accurate statement as I've never researched it's veracity.
You sure they weren't talking about the encabulator? 

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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #46 on: October 12, 2021, 07:23:24 PM »

You sure they weren't talking about the encabulator? 

https://youtu.be/Ac7G7xOG2Ag

Now that I think about it...     =D
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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2021, 07:29:01 PM »

Very true, and I've done that in the past.  It was explained to me by some folks that were load banking the genset where I used to work that it keeps shellac from building up on the commutators.  Don't know if that's an accurate statement as I've never researched it's veracity.

Yep. Plus load banking a generator also fights “wet stacking” where a Diesel engine without any load on it coats the exhaust with wet spot. A Diesel engine does not like to idle they like to work. Too much idle time is also not good for blowby.
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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2021, 08:56:02 PM »

You sure they weren't talking about the encabulator? 

https://youtu.be/Ac7G7xOG2Ag

Ha! First thing that actually came to mind too.
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Re: California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!
« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2021, 11:02:14 PM »

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