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No replacement for displacement
« on: October 20, 2021, 12:47:08 PM »
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/chevrolet-most-powerful-v8-engine



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The 632-cubic-inch ZZ632/1000 crate engine was designed for drag racing builds and not meant to be used on the street. The 10-liter mill is rated at 1004 hp and 876 lb-ft of torque on pump gas without the use of any supercharging.

Now watch some drag racer try to shoehorn it into an Aveo.
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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2021, 01:03:42 PM »
100hp/L?  Meh.

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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2021, 01:09:18 PM »
I think that would fit in my Forester...
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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2021, 01:21:22 PM »

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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2021, 01:27:55 PM »
1.38 ft lbs per ci is pretty good for na.
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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2021, 01:30:18 PM »
Cute.

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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2021, 01:37:49 PM »
That air filter better not get dirty, it's too small as it is.
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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2021, 02:24:27 PM »
It's so pretty!

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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2021, 02:55:43 PM »
Sprint car 410s are pushing 900 with no power additives. On methanol though. I guess most powerful crate is the headline that they were going for. Which is like being the smartest kid on the short bus. Heck, our purposely detuned 305 sprint motors make 500. With a flat tappet cam and 10:1 compression.
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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2021, 03:02:00 PM »
That air filter better not get dirty, it's too small as it is.

My thought, too.   I guess they had to put something up there for the sake of the photography.

Bet the barometer drops 2 inches when you start that thing.  Might even cause a rainstorm. =D
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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2021, 03:15:49 PM »
I would think anyone going to the trouble of installing this would also put in a supercharger or something similar.
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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2021, 03:34:42 PM »
I would think anyone going to the trouble of installing this would also put in a supercharger or something similar.

Depends on the application, but at first glance this thing appears geared towards hot rodders and street/strip applications. In that context, if you can make 1000 reliable and semi-controllable HP without the stress and cost of power adders, why not? Besides, 1000 HP is right at the line of unruly overkill for anything you'd want to try and drive on the street. There's no real reason to go further short of a racing need or bragging rights. There's no way to put that much power down without lots of suspension and chassis work, so most 1000 HP street cars are really just useless tire fryers or expensive garage queens. I've driven something along those lines sporting a mere 850-ish HP and it was a miserable experience, borderline uncontrollable and thoroughly unenjoyable.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't like to have one, though...  >:D

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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2021, 07:57:15 PM »
At 10 liters, would you have to supercharge the supercharger? :)
 
I thought the 7.4 in my pickup/camper was huge and I understand that engine (454)was popular for boats.
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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2021, 08:08:07 PM »
Im working on an 8.1 in a 2002 chevy, thats almost 500CI. It is a dog.
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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2021, 09:06:09 PM »
My mother's buick had a 455 in it.
 
And it would living-room cruise at 90.
 
It ate a camaro once.
 
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Be interesting to stick a birdcatcher on that thing, but you'd need one helluva built tranny and rear diff, and seriously big tires. Could be interesting for an AWD vehicle...
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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2021, 11:34:58 PM »
Our '68 Caddy had 472 CI, and a few years later they put a 500 CI version in the Eldorado. Good power, decent fuel economy, and the only pollution control on it was a PCV valve. Premium gas, though.
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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2021, 11:59:15 PM »
 >:D My Mom used to have a '67 Buick Wildcat.  As I recall, it had a 430 CI eight with a 4-barrel carb.  One time I was driving with her dozing in the passenger seat on this little, 2-lane country road that ran straight for 10 miles.  I had the pedal 75-80% down when she roused, looked at the speedo and just said "Slow it down."
Even though the pedal wasn't "on the metal", the gauge read "120".
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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2021, 12:32:49 AM »
But was it designed by cis males?
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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2021, 06:32:54 AM »
But was it designed by cis males?
Probably . . . and they no doubt took math, science, and engineering classes in high school and college before they were deemed racist and incorporated social justice equity grading.
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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2021, 01:02:53 PM »
Oh, he's just easily triggered.  :rofl:
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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2021, 04:17:56 PM »
I was always fascinated by the 2-stroke opposed piston supercharged delta configuration diesel locomotive engine.



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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2021, 04:56:28 PM »
Interesting.  Sort of a Fairbanks-Morse opposed-piston design, times 3.
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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2021, 05:21:56 PM »
I’d like to find an old Monza Spyder to put that in!

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Re: No replacement for displacement
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2021, 06:01:14 PM »
I’d like to find an old Monza Spyder to put that in!

The Corvair, the late 70s Monza, or the Ferrari?
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