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Re: NIH admits US funded gain-of-function in Wuhan
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2022, 10:04:15 AM »
Isn't it amazing how all this information is coming out and showing that the news has been manipulated for at least 2 years?
And equally amazing how people who even ASKED THE "WRONG" QUESTIONS were silenced, denounced, or fired.
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Re: NIH admits US funded gain-of-function in Wuhan
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2022, 10:28:19 AM »
https://www.propublica.org/article/senate-report-covid-19-origin-wuhan-lab

https://www.help.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/report_an_analysis_of_the_origins_of_covid-19_102722.pdf

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-wuhan-institute-of-virology-faced-an-acute-safety-emergency-in-november-2019/

https://nypost.com/2022/10/29/new-report-supports-claim-covid-19-came-from-wuhan-lab/

Yet more findings on Wuhan arising from a lab leak.

Nuts. Does this mean I need to remove my "extremist" tag? Though the only reason I was an extremist was because I questioned the story that out of the bajillion open air food markets in China, the virus spread from the one down the street from one of the few virology labs in the world playing with deadly viruses, located in a country where brand new buildings constantly collapse because of a cultural lack of safety protocols.

Of course over two years later, I suppose the famous quote, "What difference, at this point, does it make?" comes into play.
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Re: NIH admits US funded gain-of-function in Wuhan
« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2022, 11:37:22 PM »
Fauci lied, very untrustworthy, he is not an honest man.

That is what numerous people have suspected for a long time.  That this information is coming out now just shows how overdue it is.
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Re: NIH admits US funded gain-of-function in Wuhan
« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2022, 01:01:02 PM »
Why the hell are we funding laboratories in adversary countries in the first place? If it's for the purpose of espionage - keeping an eye on ChiCom bioweapon research - it failed miserably and our spy agencies need a thorough housecleaning.

Any reason other than espionage is IMHO nothing more than a smokescreen to hide corruption. (i.e., kickbacks to US policy makers)
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Re: NIH admits US funded gain-of-function in Wuhan
« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2022, 01:28:15 PM »
Why the hell are we funding laboratories in adversary countries in the first place?
To get data from experiments that are too hazardous, too immoral, or flat-out illegal to carry out on our own soil. That is, to maintain plausible deniability.
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Re: NIH admits US funded gain-of-function in Wuhan
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2022, 02:07:08 PM »
To get data from experiments that are too hazardous, too immoral, or flat-out illegal to carry out on our own soil. That is, to maintain plausible deniability.
Except it wasn't plausibly deniable at all.  The records and fingerprints were there from the start with regard to the funding.  The information that the US was giving money to that lab was out pretty early on.  All they could do was try to confuse the issue and misdirect (or ban people from internet platforms).
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Re: NIH admits US funded gain-of-function in Wuhan
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2022, 02:28:47 PM »
Except it wasn't plausibly deniable at all.  The records and fingerprints were there from the start with regard to the funding.  The information that the US was giving money to that lab was out pretty early on.  All they could do was try to confuse the issue and misdirect (or ban people from internet platforms).
Are you implying the US involvment was sloppy and lazy, and then once the "bat" got out of the bag, the evidence of involvement became available, the numbers of reported deaths skyrocketed, so the state utilized existing political divisions and a complicit press to divert the nation into arguing over fear based emotions and statistics, silencing those who refused the manufactured narrative? Because if that's not what you're implying, then I will flat out say it.  :laugh:

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Re: NIH admits US funded gain-of-function in Wuhan
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2022, 02:44:51 PM »
I think it is more plausible that some scientists who already believed that science should have no borders chose to outsource some work they deemed worth the risk - and thought they could have done for relatively cheap but this time it came back and bit all of us.  Then those selfsame people - already in positions of authority - rushed to cover up their mistakes.