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Damn, I Agree with Greta
« on: November 14, 2021, 08:09:04 AM »

Greta says that COP26 was "blah, blah, blah". I have to agree:

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/almost-200-countries-join-climate-deal-kerry-india

Once again, two of the biggest polluters on the planet get a break and the rest of us have to pay. It goes back to what we're discussing elsewhere: Places like China, Russia, and India are all looking out for themselves and strengthening their countries, while the US, EU, and others are all looking for ways to weaken themselves for "social justice".

I really miss the Donald Trump admin, where he made it clear that the US was #1, and other countries came after, with the caveat that he totally understood that as they should, other countries looked at themselves as #1, without worrying about what the US and others thought.

Under Biden, the US has a "kick me" sign on our ass in the international community.
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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2021, 08:37:15 AM »

I think I wrote this before, but . . . suppose we had a true brainwashed* Manchurian Candidate in the White House, and he'd been given orders by his masters in Beijing to do whatever he could within the limits of his executive power to diminish the USA . . . what would he be doing differently than what Biden has been doing since he took office?

Nothing

Seriously, people, I don't want to put on my tinfoil conspiracy hat [tinfoil] but if Sleepy Joe was using a coin flip every time he had to make a decision as POTUS, he'd be doing better than he has been up to now - NOBODY could be that wrong that often if there wasn't something malicious going on behind the scenes.



* - It doesn't have to be actual brainwashing - properly applied bribery and blackmail also work.
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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2021, 09:44:27 AM »

If a country thinks global warming is an existential threat and is not doing a race to the moon level national project to build nuclear plants then they are liars. I will not talk enviro issues with someone that doesn't support nuclear, they are liars.
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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2021, 10:22:09 AM »

If a country thinks global warming is an existential threat and is not doing a race to the moon level national project to build nuclear plants then they are liars. I will not talk enviro issues with someone that doesn't support nuclear, they are liars.

Now "liar" may be a little harsh and judgmental. It could very well be that they are just a *expletive deleted*ing moron.
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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2021, 10:43:53 AM »

If a country thinks global warming is an existential threat and is not doing a race to the moon level national project to build nuclear plants then they are liars. I will not talk enviro issues with someone that doesn't support nuclear, they are liars.
I agree with that (with the moron comment added).  The global warming people are even doing the opposite and shutting down nuke plants (Germany).  I think some of those people would rather freeze to death at night than admit that wind and solar cannot meet their power needs. 
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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2021, 11:08:40 AM »

I agree with that (with the moron comment added).  The global warming people are even doing the opposite and shutting down nuke plants (Germany).  I think some of those people would rather freeze to death at night than admit that wind and solar cannot meet their power needs.

More like they'd rather have you freeze to death.
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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2021, 12:36:02 PM »

I have really gotten interested in enhanced geothermal energy.  It looks like it can provide continuous electricity without the problems associated with nuclear.

I wonder how easy it would be able to use enhanced geothermal to replace coal?  The air pollution (particulates) from coal alone make it a less than ideal form of energy.

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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2021, 12:46:45 PM »

I agree with that (with the moron comment added).  The global warming people are even doing the opposite and shutting down nuke plants (Germany).  I think some of those people would rather freeze to death at night than admit that wind and solar cannot meet their power needs.

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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2021, 02:41:01 PM »

They don't want a solution; if they find one they will kill it.
Hasn't there been a movement in Kali to get rid of dams - and the hydropower that comes with them?
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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2021, 04:37:57 PM »

They're not interesting in building only destroying. Unless you count government.
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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2021, 04:45:45 PM »

More like they'd rather have you freeze to death.

Unfortunately, the people they would like to freeze to death understand concepts like "chop down tree" and "light match", so trying it won't work out very well for their precious mother gaia.
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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2021, 08:45:43 PM »

Unfortunately, the people they would like to freeze to death understand concepts like "chop down tree" and "light match", so trying it won't work out very well for their precious mother gaia.

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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2021, 09:54:10 PM »

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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2021, 10:41:42 PM »

Firewood is people!
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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2021, 11:00:59 PM »

Firewood is people!

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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2021, 12:08:59 AM »

If a country thinks global warming is an existential threat and is not doing a race to the moon level national project to build nuclear plants then they are liars. I will not talk enviro issues with someone that doesn't support nuclear, they are liars.

I concur.

Particularly in places with strong central authoritarian governments - Assuming they view AWG as an existential threat; It's difficult to explain why they aren't standardizing a cookie cutter nuclear plant design and knocking them out left and right.

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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2021, 12:19:27 AM »

The US Navy does a pretty good job of that.
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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2021, 10:15:41 AM »

Firewood is people!

Mark Twain wrote

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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2021, 11:36:02 AM »

This might be a solution. 


https://dilbert.com/strip/2001-03-29
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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2021, 11:38:04 AM »

The Nazi method in dealing with undesirables 
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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2021, 07:22:33 PM »

I agree with that (with the moron comment added).  The global warming people are even doing the opposite and shutting down nuke plants (Germany).  I think some of those people would rather freeze to death at night than admit that wind and solar cannot meet their power needs.

Wind and solar can't even produce enough power to replicate themselves let alone power the world; it takes more total energy to make a solar panel or wind turbine than those devices will ever generate, ergo wind and solar are net energy CONSUMERS, not producers.  The only place they make economic sense is in remote or niche applications where you can not utilize conventional chemical energy or access the electrical grid.

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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2021, 07:24:25 PM »

More like they'd rather have you freeze to death.

Well taking their own words about their desired population level at face value they do want 90%+ of us to die.

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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2021, 07:29:41 PM »

I have really gotten interested in enhanced geothermal energy.  It looks like it can provide continuous electricity without the problems associated with nuclear.

I wonder how easy it would be able to use enhanced geothermal to replace coal?  The air pollution (particulates) from coal alone make it a less than ideal form of energy.

It is a location dependent energy source.  You can train coal or pipe oil across the nation to a conventional power plant but you can only put geothermal in certain locales.

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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2021, 08:42:29 PM »

It is a location dependent energy source.  You can train coal or pipe oil across the nation to a conventional power plant but you can only put geothermal in certain locales.

Enhanced geothermal creates its own sites in a similar manner to fracking.... then you inject water into the hot rock layer... that is what is so cool about it!

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Re: Damn, I Agree with Greta
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2021, 10:40:59 PM »

Enhanced geothermal creates its own sites in a similar manner to fracking.... then you inject water into the hot rock layer... that is what is so cool about it!

It is still location dependent.  Hot rock layers shallow enough to be accessed by drilling don't exist everywhere.
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