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Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?

Yes, I believe the US government will publish the facts, no matter the consequences.
- 1 (2.5%)
Yes, I believe the US government will publish the facts, except national security concerns.
- 0 (0%)
Sort of, I think they publish truths, but try to present a narrative around it.
- 0 (0%)
Sort of, I think they publish some truths, but will withhold some things for reasons that are not in the best interest of the public.
- 2 (5%)
No, if the government publishes a truth, it was incidental to creating a narrative or pushing a perspective.
- 17 (42.5%)
No, in fact, they will outright lie whenever it suits the oligarchy in power
- 19 (47.5%)
No, the opposite of what's said is probably closer to the truth!
- 1 (2.5%)
You've got this all wrong, Nick.  Let me explain....
- 0 (0%)

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Nick1911

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Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« on: November 18, 2021, 05:34:54 PM »

How much do you trust the branches and agencies that make up the US government?

Edited to add:  Was there a time that you use to trust the government more?  What happened to erode that trust?

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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2021, 05:39:14 PM »

Trust thermometer: Zero Kelvin

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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2021, 05:53:23 PM »

Sort of, I think they publish some truths, but will withhold some things for reasons that are not in the best interest of the public themselves.

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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2021, 06:03:53 PM »

This some sort of grad student project to determine the feasibility of remotely inducing death by laughing?

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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2021, 06:05:08 PM »

Nope. If they tell the truth it is a: opps did we say that or b: this makes us look great.
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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2021, 06:19:03 PM »

The government has no moral or legal obligation to tell the truth.  Never has, never will.  So why would they?  They wouldn't, unless they directly benefit from telling the truth.
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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2021, 06:23:48 PM »

How much do you trust the branches and agencies that make up the US government?

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Edited to add:  Was there a time that you use to trust the government more?

I was young.

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  What happened to erode that trust?

As I get older I see more of how the world works, and like it less.
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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2021, 07:02:40 PM »

Never trust a government that doesn't trust it's people. Seems like the government trust it's people less and less as time goes on.
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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2021, 07:13:03 PM »

First step is to understand that we don't have a US Government.  We have a bunch of factions Boeing for power and the ability to work towards their goals for themselves, the country, and the world.  Then understand that they will tell you what you need to gain your support in those endeavors.

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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2021, 07:34:07 PM »

When the people are afraid of their government you have tyranny.
When the government fears the people you have liberty.
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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2021, 08:24:31 PM »

The government or the media?
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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2021, 08:30:29 PM »

The government or the media?

Both.  I’m very Leary of anything government says and definitely don’t believe 90% of the media.

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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2021, 10:30:43 PM »

Everything is anarchy, even government.  There's a thin film of civility and fear of repercussions for most, and for a smaller percentage there's an actual moral compass.

The vast majority of "government" is self serving and operates under fixed-pie economics with no regard for repercussions.

Any truth that comes out of that is incidental.
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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2021, 11:09:34 PM »

Some combination of the three NO's listed is about where I'm at these days.
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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2021, 12:23:21 AM »

I trust our federal government marginally more than the CCP.  Which is to say, any truth told is only done in service to their overarching goal of accruing more power.  Occasionally someone of conscience will speak up here, whereas in China they won’t lest their family get billed for the ammo used in their execution, with no credit for the value of the organs harvested (not necessarily after they shot you either). 

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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2021, 11:53:33 PM »

"No, NO, and HELL NO !!"
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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2021, 12:09:18 AM »

Is this a serious question? On this board???
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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2021, 01:25:48 AM »

The government or the media?
Is there a difference, these days?
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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2021, 07:35:32 AM »

Not since 1969.

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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2021, 07:45:53 AM »

The government and the media are both bureaucracies, which are occupied largely by people whose sole goal involves their wallet... Those people are easily manipulated by people with other goals.
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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2021, 09:12:13 AM »

Look at what this admin and members of congress are still saying about Rittenhouse
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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2021, 02:13:17 PM »

  I voted for the government.
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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2021, 07:41:24 PM »

I don't think anyone in power has told the whole, unadulterated truth in a long time.

I do think the mass media has contributed greatly to the problem. There is too much money and too much possibility to influence at stake. Once news became a marketable commodity, it became corruptible in a way we hadn't seen before.

I think that the only thing saving us from being completely screwed is that those with the power and money to control us don't typically work together and they are egotistical bastards. Their incompetency (and they have many) is what could be (and usually is) their downfall.
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Re: Do you trust the US government to tell the truth?
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2021, 08:28:51 PM »

The US government could state that the sky was blue, and I'd look out the window before accepting it.

The real tragedy is I apply that to the "Justice" system too.  Only a fool still believes in due process anymore.  Your outcome will be determined by who you know and how big your warchest is.
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