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FBI on 06JAN
« on: January 11, 2022, 02:17:26 PM »

"I cannot answer that."

Said by the rep for most every question, including, "Did FBI agents or informants participate in the events on 06JAN?"

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/01/11/who-is-ray-epps-watching-fbis-jill-sanborn-squirm-as-ted-cruz-grills-her-about-fbi-involvement-with-january-6-is-worth-all-the-popcorn-watch/
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Re: FBI on 06JAN
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2022, 03:01:37 PM »

She is just refusing to answer.  As the comments said, I figure if she didn't know or the answer was no, she would have said that.  She changed her answer to "not to my knowledge" on the last question. 
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Re: FBI on 06JAN
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2022, 03:03:43 PM »

At this point, we know it was an orchestrated event encouraged and led by federal agents and informants.  It is just a matter of getting the feds to admit it and release all the evidence. 

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Re: FBI on 06JAN
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2022, 03:24:56 PM »

The MSM when someone on the right won't answer a question



The MSM when someone on the left won't answer a question





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Re: FBI on 06JAN
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2022, 05:16:41 PM »

At this point, we know it was an orchestrated event encouraged and led by federal agents and informants.  It is just a matter of getting the feds to admit it and release all the evidence.

Good luck with that.

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Re: FBI on 06JAN
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2022, 05:52:33 PM »

In the meantime, the "Federal Select Committee" has said that they interviewed Epps and that he assured them he was neither a fed nor informant. If everyone is so sure, why did the FBI refuse to confirm what the committee stated? Also, if he was not a Fed, then why was he wiped from wanted posters when there is clear evidence - much more than for most others being held without bail - that he incited people? Why is he not under arrest? Why did the Select Committee not call in Capitol Police to arrest him when he appeared before them?

This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/01/11/spokesperson-ray-epps-told-the-january-6-select-committee-that-no-he-wasnt-working-for-the-feds/
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Re: FBI on 06JAN
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2022, 09:15:12 PM »

soooooooooooooooooo, yes.
It is nice grandstanding, but no one thinks anything will come of it, right?

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Re: FBI on 06JAN
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2022, 11:28:54 PM »

It is nice grandstanding, but no one thinks anything will come of it, right?

Does it ever? 

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Re: FBI on 06JAN
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2022, 08:54:05 AM »

It is nice grandstanding, but no one thinks anything will come of it, right?
Even if the R's had a full control I doubt anything would happen.  The main thing Congress could do is cut funding to that agency, but I don't see the present leadership doing it.
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Re: FBI on 06JAN
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2022, 09:00:45 AM »

Even if the R's had a full control I doubt anything would happen.  The main thing Congress could do it cut funding to that agency, but I don't see the present leadership doing it.

The Rs have a habit of pretty much rolling over and playing dead whenever they're in full control. It's really really irritating.
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Re: FBI on 06JAN
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2022, 09:12:24 AM »

The Rs have a habit of pretty much rolling over and playing dead whenever they're in full control. It's really really irritating.
When Darryl Issa was a committee chairman, he talked a good game - but nothing happened.

When Trey Gowdy took over he not only talked a better game, but shook his fist - and still nothing happened.

The R's have steadily disappointed me for years . . . decades:mad:
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Re: FBI on 06JAN
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2022, 10:17:42 AM »

In the meantime, the "Federal Select Committee" has said that they interviewed Epps and that he assured them he was neither a fed nor informant. If everyone is so sure, why did the FBI refuse to confirm what the committee stated?
Glomar response, standard procedure.

there is clear evidence - much more than for most others being held without bail - that he incited people? Why is he not under arrest? Why did the Select Committee not call in Capitol Police to arrest him when he appeared before them?
Did he break or steal anything, assault anyone, or even enter the Capitol building?
To my knowledge, everyone charged has done one of those and no one has been charged with incitement.
It used to be that we got into genuine debates about whether you’re more of a conservative or a moderate. We used to debate over ideology. And now it is how far you can go down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories. And if you’re unwilling to do it, it doesn’t matter if you’re pro-life, if you’ve never voted for a tax increase. It doesn’t matter. It’s all about going deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole, unfortunately.

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Re: FBI on 06JAN
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2022, 12:10:35 PM »

Did he break or steal anything, assault anyone, or even enter the Capitol building?
To my knowledge, everyone charged has done one of those and no one has been charged with incitement.
Aren't they trying to trump up (  ;)  ) some charges against Donald Trump for just that?

As for Jill Sanborn - refusing to answer is baloney. Unless she clearly stated under oath she was ignorant of the goings on or was asserting her 5th Amendment right against self incrimination, Capitol police should have taken her out in handcuffs and put her in a cell until she DID answer. (errrr . . . wasn't she on a video call? A little harder to accomplish that.)
Trump won in 2016. Democrats haven't been so offended since Republicans came along and freed their slaves.
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Re: FBI on 06JAN
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2022, 03:02:12 PM »

Did he break or steal anything, assault anyone, or even enter the Capitol building? To my knowledge, everyone charged has done one of those
This is no longer the case.
Federal prosecutors have charged the founder of the Oath Keepers and 10 other members of the far-right group with seditious conspiracy for their role in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot, the Justice Department announced Thursday.

Stewart Rhodes, 56, was arrested Thursday in Little Elm, Texas, and also faces charges for crimes related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol.

The Oath Keepers leader and founder has said he was present at the riot but never entered the Capitol.
It used to be that we got into genuine debates about whether you’re more of a conservative or a moderate. We used to debate over ideology. And now it is how far you can go down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories. And if you’re unwilling to do it, it doesn’t matter if you’re pro-life, if you’ve never voted for a tax increase. It doesn’t matter. It’s all about going deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole, unfortunately.

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Re: FBI on 06JAN
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2022, 05:20:25 PM »

Oath Keeper Founder and Yale Law Grad Stewart Rhodes Arrested, Charged with ‘Seditious Conspiracy’ in Connection With January 6 Capitol Riot
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/yale-law-grad-oath-keeper-founder-stewart-rhodes-arrested-charged-with-seditious-conspiracy/
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Re: FBI on 06JAN
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2022, 09:30:26 PM »

So... They are going after a lawyer who is a nut about splitting hairs regarding the constitution? Gonna be fun...
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Re: FBI on 06JAN
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2022, 07:14:38 AM »

I remember rankling a couple folks here during the early days of the Trump administration by calling this particular dept a den of traitors.

Nothing has happened over the last 5 years to change that assessment has it?

It is no longer hard to believe the govmn't is the enemy of America.

It's not that Americans are the the enemy of the govmn't. Americans aren't even paying attention.

It's right in our faces. Time to wake up. 

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Re: FBI on 06JAN
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2022, 02:08:16 PM »

I just hope Cruz and Sinema don't get on the same plane.

I figured the jig was up when I heard a Superman & Lois commercial where he says he gave his loyalty to the world a long time ago.

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