War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....

[bedlamite]

Alex Jones was right. Again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdbdl3VKVb8

[fifth_column]

Since WLJ mentioned flightradar24 I thought I'd take a look. Apparently, Ukraine is being given a wide berth, which makes sense.

[French G.]

As to how we decide nations, my limited experience with Ukrainian coworkers is that is best to not call them Russian for funsies. They don’t get the joke. The national identity is strong. No doubt we screwed around in their politics but they have had multiple votes and constitutional amendments that says they look west. We promised them security for giving back the nukes. The guy deposed by their revolution lives in exile in Russia. A good party member too. So it is not like vlad was sitting over there minding his own.

[Pb]

. We promised them security for giving back the nukes.

The USA promised that we would not attack them.  Russia promised the same.  We are keeping our promise.  Russia isn't.

We did not promise that we would stop Russia from attacking them.

[Jim147]

I really thought that whole administration couldn't be idiots.

I turned on cable new today for the first time since the 2020 election to watch the briefings. i was proved right. They had one guy smart enough to hire Stephen King to write policy. Only they told him to use the book 1984 and the movie Ideocracy and make them the presidents policy.   

[Ben]

I was just talking to hot Ukrainian ex-coworker and she was talking to her relatives in Western Ukraine a couple of hours ago. Things are relatively calm at the moment where her relatives are.

[WLJ]

    reminder not to assign gender to anyone from ukraine when tweeting about world war 3. remember to use the correct term “folx” when referring to all ukrainian folx ! 🤍 it’s not hard to be inclusive of all genders in ukraine

    — señorita awesome (@noangeIcharli) February 24, 2022

A coupe of other winners at the link

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/02/24/putin-did-us-a-favor-libs-of-tik-tok-presents-the-worst-takes-to-come-out-of-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine/

[charby]

The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances may require the US and UK to go to war with Russia for invading Ukraine (or Belarus or Kazakhstan). I'm still reading about this.

[Ben]

Doubling down, Deputy National Security Advisor and Deputy NEC Director, Daleep Singh says "our measures were not designed to disrupt in any way the current flow of energy from Russia to the world."

So does that mean we're still getting our oil from them too? Those are some sanctions, you betchya.

[Ben]

A coupe of other winners at the link

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/02/24/putin-did-us-a-favor-libs-of-tik-tok-presents-the-worst-takes-to-come-out-of-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine/

The one you quoted kinda makes me want to see the commies cyberkill our power grid, just so that these aholes can learn what real problems are.

[RoadKingLarry]

The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances may require the US and UK to go to war with Russia for invading Ukraine (or Belarus or Kazakhstan). I'm still reading about this.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances

The Budapest Memorandum was negotiated at political level, but it is not entirely clear whether the instrument is devoid entirely of legal provisions. It refers to assurances, but it does not impose a legal obligation of military assistance on its parties.[1][20] According to Stephen MacFarlane, a professor of international relations, "It gives signatories justification if they take action, but it does not force anyone to act in Ukraine."

[RoadKingLarry]

Something I'm curious about. MSM seems to be making a big deal out of the Ruskies "capturing" Chernobyl, what's the big deal about capturing a radioactive shithole?

[Hawkmoon]

Since WLJ mentioned flightradar24 I thought I'd take a look. Apparently, Ukraine is being given a wide berth, which makes sense.

That's how Afghanistan looked right after the Taliban took over.

[Jim147]

Something I'm curious about. MSM seems to be making a big deal out of the Ruskies "capturing" Chernobyl, what's the big deal about capturing a radioactive shithole?

Well, they can't use their nukes without starting WW3 but some terrorists with a few dirty bombs running around is a whole different story.

[Hawkmoon]

After doing a "readers digest" version of the history of Ukraine and also the history of Taiwan as a refresher I have a serious question. What is the time frame that should be accepted for a region to be considered separated from their "home" nation and be independent?

As far as China is concerned they never gave up Taiwan. The Taiwan government apparently for a while considered themselves the actual legitimate Chinese government in exile.

The legitimate government of China was the government "in exile" in/on Taiwan. As far as I'm concerned, the communist government of mainland China is not and never has been legitimate.

[Hawkmoon]

I'm not sure about Ukraine, particularly since they have been a part of Russia on and off for a long time.

I'm very fuzzy on details but, if I remember what she said even a bit correctly, a former GF from Ukraine basically said that Ukraine is older than Russia as a civilized nation, and that Ukraine was the birthplace of Russia.

Or something like that.

[Bogie]

Wasn't Ukraine the USSR's version of Florida, along with harbors and pipelines?

[Ron]

Something I'm curious about. MSM seems to be making a big deal out of the Ruskies "capturing" Chernobyl, what's the big deal about capturing a radioactive shithole?

In an article I read they pointed out that if Russia is staging troops, equipment and the like there nobody will be dropping bombs or attacking them with missiles due to not wanting to kick up clouds of radioactive dust. 

[WLJ]

Somethings I've not seen asked is what would Putin do if a stalemate ensues or even starts losing?
What is the morale of the Russian army like in all of this?

[Angel Eyes]

"Russian warship, go *expletive deleted*ck yourself."

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1497005877555077124

[WLJ]

In an article I read they pointed out that if Russia is staging troops, equipment and the like there nobody will be dropping bombs or attacking them with missiles due to not wanting to kick up clouds of radioactive dust.

Wonder what the troops there think about being in a radioactive wonderland?

[Nick1911]

Something I'm curious about. MSM seems to be making a big deal out of the Ruskies "capturing" Chernobyl, what's the big deal about capturing a radioactive shithole?

I caught a few headlines talking about that too.  I'd guess it's just because that's a very recognizable name for the public in the west.  I think people associate it with danger and importance.  From the perspective of the military campaign... it isn't relevant.

Although I'm sure people working on dismantling and dealing with chernobyl-4 in the new safe confinement are not entirely thrilled to be in the middle of a war zone.  I wonder if the Russians will expel the Ukrainian and international workers there?

[WLJ]

"Russian warship, go *expletive deleted*ck yourself."

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1497005877555077124

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePCVxoWlB2g

[T.O.M.]

Although I'm sure people working on dismantling and dealing with chernobyl-4 in the new safe confinement are not entirely thrilled to be in the middle of a war zone.  I wonder if the Russians will expel the Ukrainian and international workers there?

CNN reported that the techs are now being held prisoner by the Russian forces.

[kgbsquirrel]

In an article I read they pointed out that if Russia is staging troops, equipment and the like there nobody will be dropping bombs or attacking them with missiles due to not wanting to kick up clouds of radioactive dust.

Seems like the Russian troops would be the worst off getting dusted with radmats from munition impacts there.  The dust won't go far without being carried into the upper atmosphere without a thermal updraft.