War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....

[Angel Eyes]

... and they have to pass it so we can see what's in it.

[Ben]

I wonder what we would do if China decided to throw $50 billion or so in war aid to the ruskies? Oh, and have it all go to the war machine instead of pork.

[Ben]

Leave it to Business Insider to twist everything into Orange Man. In this case, Putin invaded Ukraine now because Trump frustrated him back when he was President.

https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-frustrated-constantly-explaining-things-to-trump-fiona-hill-2022-5

[WLJ]

 Ukraine forces use new American howitzers on Russian positions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz8JimT9Itg

[MillCreek]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/19/finland-against-hosting-nuclear-weapons-nato-military-bases-pm

Finland and Sweden want to join NATO, but don't want bases or nukes on their soil.  Hmmm.

[MechAg94]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/19/finland-against-hosting-nuclear-weapons-nato-military-bases-pm

Finland and Sweden want to join NATO, but don't want bases or nukes on their soil.  Hmmm.

So they want military aide and access to NATO weapons?

[WLJ]

Whoops

    Former President George W. Bush: “The decision of one man to launch a wholly unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq. I mean of Ukraine.” pic.twitter.com/UMwNMwMnmX

    — Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) May 19, 2022

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/05/19/oops-george-w-bush-condemns-brutal-invasion-of-iraq-in-ukraine-speech/

[MillCreek]

^^^You never forget your first invasion.

[Ben]

So they want military aide and access to NATO weapons?

And like most all the Western European countries, won't want to fork over their required percentage of ducats.

[AZRedhawk44]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/19/finland-against-hosting-nuclear-weapons-nato-military-bases-pm

Finland and Sweden want to join NATO, but don't want bases or nukes on their soil.  Hmmm.

Good.  They build their own bases, provide their own soldiers.  Buy NATO weaponry from various Western ironmongers and train to be able to integrate into allied NATO responses.

What's not to like?

[cordex]

What's not to like?

Commitment to go to war to protect them if Russia gets froggy.

[kgbsquirrel]

So they want military aide and access to NATO weapons?

They already have their own.

What they want is a guaranty that they'll have backup if Russia decides they're next.

[kgbsquirrel]

^^^You never forget your first invasion.

So, Afghanistan?

[MillCreek]

So, Afghanistan?

W gesturing off into the distance: one of those sandy places over that away!

[WLJ]

Where men ride camels and the goats are nervous

[kgbsquirrel]

Where men ride camels and the goats are nervous

Not just the goats.   

[WLJ]

According to this John Deere remotely disabled tractors Russians plundered from a farm equipment dealership in Ukraine

Russians plunder $5M farm vehicles from Ukraine – to find they’ve been remotely disabled
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/01/europe/russia-farm-vehicles-ukraine-disabled-melitopol-intl/index.html

[Angel Eyes]

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[Ben]

I guess we can laugh about Deere doing this to the ruskies, but it sure makes you think about what could be done to anyone, anywhere, if you happen to be an enemy of "X", or the unpopular [cough] MAGA [/cough] part of a population whose leaders have a Ministry of Truth.

[WLJ]

I guess we can laugh about Deere doing this to the ruskies, but it sure makes you think about what could be done to anyone, anywhere, if you happen to be an enemy of "X", or the unpopular [cough] MAGA [/cough] part of a population whose leaders have a Ministry of Truth.

That was brought up in a YT video.
And not just tractors but it can be done with many cars nowadays

[MillCreek]

That was brought up in a YT video.
And not just tractors but it can be done with many cars nowadays

I had to give one of my team members a ride home.  She missed a car payment and the dealer remotely disabled her car in the hospital parking lot. She had to bring cash to the dealer to get the car enabled again.

[WLJ]

I had to give one of my team members a ride home.  She missed a car payment and the dealer remotely disabled her car in the hospital parking lot. She had to bring cash to the dealer to get the car enabled again.

What kind of car was it?

[dogmush]

It may not matter.  There are third party add-on GPS tracking and disablers that many "dealers" put on their used cars.  The buy here pay here places are notorious for them.

[WLJ]

It may not matter.  There are third party add-on GPS tracking and disablers that many "dealers" put on their used cars.  The buy here pay here places are notorious for them.

Yeah, it did come to mind it was something they could have installed. But that could be easier to disable than something integrated in the system from the factory.

[Angel Eyes]

Hmm ... seems the sanctions aren't having the desired effect:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ruble-surges-7-high-gas-163120924.html