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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #1550 on: May 22, 2022, 03:26:57 PM »
Supposedly we are down to a ten week global wheat supply. It sounds like it will hit other countries more than it will the US. Still, it probably wouldn't hurt to pick up a sack of flour now vs in a couple months.

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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #1552 on: May 23, 2022, 03:44:52 PM »
When does the North American winter wheat harvest start? I know that oats is about 6 weeks from now but wheat isn't grown here.
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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #1553 on: May 23, 2022, 04:18:23 PM »
When does the North American winter wheat harvest start? I know that oats is about 6 weeks from now but wheat isn't grown here.

Depends on where. On the Gulf Coast it can start as early as late April. TX/OK/KS are usually spread across May. North Dakotas/Nebraska can be late as mid-June.

I fully expect production to be way down, and what wasn't lost to drought will be stupid expensive to harvest due to fuel prices.

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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #1554 on: May 23, 2022, 04:25:26 PM »
Depends on where. On the Gulf Coast it can start as early as late April. TX/OK/KS are usually across May. North Dakotas/Nebraska can be late as mid-June.

I fully expect production to be way down, and what wasn't lost to drought will be stupid expensive to harvest due to fuel prices.

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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #1555 on: May 23, 2022, 04:26:06 PM »
No drought here in southern Missouri but we had a long, cold cloudy spring so it's nice and green but running a little behind. They might be getting the soybeans out in November at this rate.
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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #1556 on: May 23, 2022, 04:38:57 PM »
Heard fertilizer may be an issue since a lot of it came from Russia.  True or false?

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« Reply #1557 on: May 23, 2022, 04:53:01 PM »
Heard fertilizer may be an issue since a lot of it came from Russia.  True or false?

Read a few weeks ago where one of the major rail shippers in this country is refusing to transport US-made fertilizer due to "capacity issues".  And they threatened to cancel existing contracts with shippers if they complained.  Seemed quite strange to me, almost as though someone is trying to worsen food shortages in this country.
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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #1558 on: May 23, 2022, 05:03:27 PM »
Heard fertilizer may be an issue since a lot of it came from Russia.  True or false?

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« Reply #1559 on: May 23, 2022, 05:06:09 PM »
Heard fertilizer may be an issue since a lot of it came from Russia.  True or false?

 It is up 200% plus and there is a shortage. Most farmers around here are going with soybeans this year due to the price increase.
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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #1560 on: May 23, 2022, 05:24:03 PM »
When does the North American winter wheat harvest start? I know that oats is about 6 weeks from now but wheat isn't grown here.

My dad's farmer grew Winter wheat and oats in CA, and that always came off in March. I see the wheat around here comes off mostly in April.
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« Reply #1561 on: May 23, 2022, 05:37:41 PM »
My dad's farmer grew Winter wheat and oats in CA, and that always came off in March. I see the wheat around here comes off mostly in April.

Sounds really early, but I'm only familiar with hard red winter wheat which ripens south to north. Harvesters start in the gulf states in late April to early May and migrate north following ripening crops. They end up in the northern states in August to begin spring and summer wheat harvest.

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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #1562 on: May 23, 2022, 05:50:42 PM »
Heard fertilizer may be an issue since a lot of it came from Russia.  True or false?

Well, Russia can’t export anything of consequence right now (except natural gas to Germany).  They’re the major supplier of potash to the world.  China has banned exports of urea.  And most of the rest of world has stopped making other nitrogen fertilizers because natural gas is too expensive.

We (the USA) can get by, mostly, though not without near term disruption (including price volatility), but much of the 3rd world is heading for famine if we can’t get them adequate amounts of fertilizer in whatever form they can use.

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« Reply #1563 on: May 23, 2022, 06:09:17 PM »
The soft winter wheat in Washington harvest usually starts shortly after the fourth of July and the spring wheat harvest follows a month later.
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« Reply #1564 on: May 23, 2022, 06:11:13 PM »
Read a few weeks ago where one of the major rail shippers in this country is refusing to transport US-made fertilizer due to "capacity issues".  And they threatened to cancel existing contracts with shippers if they complained.  Seemed quite strange to me, almost as though someone is trying to worsen food shortages in this country.

The issue is that the fertilizer producer(also DEF) is shipping in private cars. The railroad is behind meeting delivery contracts to other companies so were reducing all private car traffic. Of course we need to kill the Jones Act and build more rail but the usual suspects will block every effort to prosper.

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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #1565 on: May 23, 2022, 06:41:01 PM »
This years fertilizer, fuel and other inputs for agriculture was contracted last year for this years growing season, so unless prices start to fall, next year is going to be very expensive.
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« Reply #1566 on: May 23, 2022, 07:01:22 PM »
And what they do manage to harvest will be sold overseas for better prices.

Depends who's holding futures contracts and what's needed for domestic food production.
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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #1568 on: May 24, 2022, 09:34:44 AM »
NATO would do themselves a favor to boot Turkey and let them dangle for a bit. They need a little does of humility.

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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #1569 on: May 24, 2022, 10:14:19 AM »
I hope Turkey does veto adding any more countries to NATO.  It does not help the USA to commit itself to being nuked to protect foreign nations.  I don't want to get my family killed over Sweden or Finland.

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« Reply #1570 on: May 24, 2022, 06:18:14 PM »
I never liked Kissinger anyway.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/henry-kissinger-warns-against-defeat-174812366.html

And now I have lost any shred of respect I might once have held for the man. Why should Ukraine cede territory to Russia? Russia is 28 times the area of Ukraine, and has 3-1/2 times the population. If Russia wants to be part of the stability of Europe, it can start by behaving like a civilized nation, and not attacking it's smaller neighbors.
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« Reply #1571 on: May 24, 2022, 06:54:20 PM »
I never liked Kissinger anyway.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/henry-kissinger-warns-against-defeat-174812366.html

And now I have lost any shred of respect I might once have held for the man. Why should Ukraine cede territory to Russia? Russia is 28 times the area of Ukraine, and has 3-1/2 times the population. If Russia wants to be part of the stability of Europe, it can start by behaving like a civilized nation, and not attacking it's smaller neighbors.

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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #1572 on: May 24, 2022, 06:56:07 PM »
A) That *expletive deleted*er is still alive!?! 


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He seemed old when I was a kid back in the late 60s-70s
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« Reply #1573 on: May 24, 2022, 08:48:00 PM »
98 years old.
He seemed old when I was a kid back in the late 60s-70s

I'm honestly surprised he hasn't been killed by a Vietnam veteran for colluding with the North Vietnamese by passing to them our weekly air strike plans.

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« Reply #1574 on: May 24, 2022, 10:59:21 PM »
I'm honestly surprised he hasn't been killed by a Vietnam veteran for colluding with the North Vietnamese by passing to them our weekly air strike plans.

He’ll get his due one way or another.  Men like that don’t trust in the forgiveness of Jesus, typically.