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Re: Log Splitters?
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2022, 09:54:44 AM »

We used hydraulics to run molds - the mold cavity WILL close... I wonder how hard it would be to weld something  up with a nice big pump and ram...
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Re: Log Splitters?
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2022, 10:59:34 AM »

We used hydraulics to run molds - the mold cavity WILL close... I wonder how hard it would be to weld something  up with a nice big pump and ram...
A lot of people have done just that. Many of them function ok.
With material costs Iím not sure you could save enough to bother.
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Re: Log Splitters?
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2022, 11:03:43 AM »

A lot of people have done just that. Many of them function ok.
With material costs Iím not sure you could save enough to bother.

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Re: Log Splitters?
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2022, 11:05:29 AM »

Assuming you have chain hooks or a ring on your bucket?

I don't. If I were a better welder to where I could trust the welds, I'd add some, but right now I tilt the bucket all the way down to eliminate edges that could fray the straps,  then wrap the straps and/or a chain around the bucket and shackle whatever load I have.
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Re: Log Splitters?
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2022, 01:32:58 PM »

I don't. If I were a better welder to where I could trust the welds, I'd add some, but right now I tilt the bucket all the way down to eliminate edges that could fray the straps,  then wrap the straps and/or a chain around the bucket and shackle whatever load I have.
I bought my loader tractor used from my neighbor. He wasnít much of a welder but he had somebody weld chain hooks on 2 rectangular steel plates then drilled and bolted the plates to the top of the bucket (in line with the frame and rams). I later welded a loop in the center out of 5/8Ē round for lifting with straps or chain.
My bucket is a heavy duty bucket so not likely Iíll give it the classic center pucker.
 I know you can get bolt on hooks somewhere.
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Re: Log Splitters?
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2022, 01:34:33 PM »

I know you can get bolt on hooks somewhere.
Yeah, I bought some on Amazon (for a non-tractor use).  Plenty available there.

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Re: Log Splitters?
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2022, 01:38:42 PM »

I'll have to look into bolt-ons for the top of the bucket. Hooks would definitely save me some aggravation. I use the bucket as a lift a lot more than I thought I would.
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Re: Log Splitters?
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2022, 01:56:58 PM »

I'll have to look into bolt-ons for the top of the bucket. Hooks would definitely save me some aggravation. I use the bucket as a lift a lot more than I thought I would.

You can get clamp on forks for a bucket too. I used those last fall on a skid loader to unload 2-1 ton pallets of bear bait.
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Re: Log Splitters?
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2022, 01:58:35 PM »

We used hydraulics to run molds - the mold cavity WILL close... I wonder how hard it would be to weld something  up with a nice big pump and ram...

I remember as a kid that most of the hydraulic log splitters were home built, I remember seeing hydraulic parts kits for sale in various outdoor or Mother Earth News type magazines.
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Re: Log Splitters?
« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2022, 01:59:12 PM »

I'll have to look into bolt-ons for the top of the bucket. Hooks would definitely save me some aggravation. I use the bucket as a lift a lot more than I thought I would.

Or practice your welding....


No snark there at all, I'd much rather have welded hooks for lifting then blow a hole in the bucket and bolt them on.  If you don't trust your current welding skilz, get a box of rod and some scrap steel and get better.  (or a MIG.  Any monkey can weld with a MIG.)  It's not rocket surgery.

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Re: Log Splitters?
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2022, 02:30:24 PM »

Or practice your welding....


No snark there at all, I'd much rather have welded hooks for lifting then blow a hole in the bucket and bolt them on.  If you don't trust your current welding skilz, get a box of rod and some scrap steel and get better.  (or a MIG.  Any monkey can weld with a MIG.)  It's not rocket surgery.

I could use more practice. I have both a stick and MIG welder and have done good welds with the MIG welder, like welding a trailer together, that have held for a long while now. I'm just a little scared when it comes to something like hooks that might be lifting a couple thousand pounds.
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Re: Log Splitters?
« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2022, 02:35:58 PM »

You can get clamp on forks for a bucket too. I used those last fall on a skid loader to unload 2-1 ton pallets of bear bait.

Funny, I was just researching those the other day. I was a little leery of weight capacity on bigger stuff, but it seems they should handle under 1000lb fine. I see them rated over that, but I think that definitely requires ballast on the three point for a little 35hp tractor like I have. My bucket is rated for 2300lb, and when I have it full of dirt, I like to have the boxblade on the back, especially on uneven terrain.
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Re: Log Splitters?
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2022, 02:36:32 PM »

I could use more practice. I have both a stick and MIG welder and have done good welds with the MIG welder, like welding a trailer together, that have held for a long while now. I'm just a little scared when it comes to something like hooks that might be lifting a couple thousand pounds.

Well sure, that's understandable, but it's better than lifting on bolts.

Just don't stand under it the first couple times.   >:D >:D


FWIW, when I was learning to weld, I would weld stuff up, then test it to destruction so I knew that a weld that felt and looked like "A" would withstand "B" forces.  It's come in handy since.  Since you have hydraulics and time available, you might try something similar.  Weld up a hook or something on a piece of heavy channel, then pull it apart with your tractor (or shiny new log splitter).  See what it'll do.  Gain skillz and confidence.

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Re: Log Splitters?
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2022, 04:36:20 PM »

That steel doesn't need to be new either... Used structural stuff, junkyard, whatever, at scrap value?
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Re: Log Splitters?
« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2022, 09:46:09 PM »


FWIW, when I was learning to weld, I would weld stuff up, then test it to destruction so I knew that a weld that felt and looked like "A" would withstand "B" forces.  It's come in handy since.  Since you have hydraulics and time available, you might try something similar.  Weld up a hook or something on a piece of heavy channel, then pull it apart with your tractor (or shiny new log splitter).  See what it'll do.  Gain skillz and confidence.

That's a good idea. I just a few days ago found like a 10' length of what looks to be 1/4" channel stock hiding in some weeds I was removing. A little rusty, but looks to be in good enough shape for such practice/testing.
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Re: Log Splitters?
« Reply #40 on: May 12, 2022, 10:18:04 PM »

Good old 6010 or 6013 rod will burn through rust, paint, manure and crud.
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Re: Log Splitters?
« Reply #41 on: May 12, 2022, 11:58:26 PM »

Personally, I just use a $200 wire welder I got from China Fright... Overall, not bad for 1/4" and thinner. My next door neighbor, a retired boilermaker, welded up his porch rail out of 1/4" thick tube with one of the little $100 ones - you just have to know your equipment's limitations, and stay within them.
 
I'm thinking I could easily turn a "wood grenade" sort of thing on the lathe, maybe with a little milling after the fact to square it up a bit. I wouldn't be heat treating it, but would it really need it?
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