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Cashless? You watched these shows and never heard of gold-pressed latinum?    :rofl:

And how much of that did the Federation citizens use in their day to day lives?  Evidently you are the one who didn't pay attention.

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And don't forget that for the first couple of seasons NG, the "Great Bird of the Galaxy" (Gene Roddenberry) was still in charge.
I never really warmed up to DS9 or Voyager as they were either locked into the location or there was little interaction with the "traditional villeins" or Starfleet.


Metric crap ton of Klingons and Romulans in DS9.
And DS9 gave us Garek,  the greatest side character ever in ST.

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And how much of that did the Federation citizens use in their day to day lives?  Evidently you are the one who didn't pay attention.
References to it - and its purchasing power - popped up on the TV show with some regularity.  See https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Latinum
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References to it - and its purchasing power - popped up on the TV show with some regularity.  See https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Latinum

United Federation: cashless utopia
Everyone Else: latinum based economy chaos

There's a message there and they rubbed it in with TNG.

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Metric crap ton of Klingons and Romulans in DS9.
And DS9 gave us Garek,  the greatest side character ever in ST.

You have my vote, sir.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FggqbNUZD8U

Yup.  Despite all the political BS the show was saddled with, that character was awesome. 

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I remember when Garek set up a double (or was it triple?) deception in order to get the Romulans to join the Federation and Klingon Empire's side during the Dominion War.

Capt. Sisko figured things out and had an introspective soliloquy explaining the trickery . . . and then he decided to keep his mouth shut about it. (Picard would have notified the Romulans that they'd been tricked - since it was the leftist thing to do - and had them join the other side.)
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I remember when Garek set up a double (or was it triple?) deception in order to get the Romulans to join the Federation and Klingon Empire's side during the Dominion War.

Capt. Sisko figured things out and had an introspective soliloquy explaining the trickery . . . and then he decided to keep his mouth shut about it. (Picard would have notified the Romulans that they'd been tricked - since it was the leftist thing to do - and had them join the other side.)

In The Pale Moonlight.
Many consider it the best ST episode ever made
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United Federation: cashless utopia
Everyone Else: latinum based economy chaos

There's a message there and they rubbed it in with TNG.
I wasn't sure if Star Trek ever really addressed how the replicators affected things.  You saw everyone just get whatever they want from the replicator, but they never really addressed what benefits there were for people who chose to work and join Starfleet and such. 

I recall O'Brien mentioned that his Mother didn't trust replicated food, but didn't mention how they acquired it or if they had to pay for it (or if ownership of land was at a premium or not). 

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In The Pale Moonlight.
Many consider it the best ST episode ever made

For a Garak-specific episode, The Wire has my vote.
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I recall O'Brien mentioned that his Mother didn't trust replicated food, but didn't mention how they acquired it or if they had to pay for it (or if ownership of land was at a premium or not).

It seems like it would be overly difficult, at least for meat. In the super duper preachy first season of TNG, I recall there was an episode where the crew made remarks about someone eating "real meat" as if they were a degenerate mutant cannibal.
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It seems like it would be overly difficult, at least for meat. In the super duper preachy first season of TNG, I recall there was an episode where the crew made remarks about someone eating "real meat" as if they were a degenerate mutant cannibal.

Well from view point of a society where 99% of the population has probably never seen actual meat I could see that the idea of butchering an animal could be consider repulsive when you can just walk up to a machine and say "T-bone medium rare" and poof there it is.
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Just as real as her governorship of Georgia.

Sad to say but I would bet almost no one can name the actual Gov of Georgia. Even sadder is that many would no doubt say Adams
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Sea Quest had the USS H.R. Clinton
When the ship was mentioned was the first and last 5 minutes of the show I watched.
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Andrew Robinson was perfect as Garak.  After all, he was the psychotic killer in the first Dirty Harry movie.
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Picard Suspended From Twitter For Saying He Sees Only Four Lights

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead

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I was maybe going to get Paramount + for a month to watch Picard and a couple of other things just to have something to watch. I was watching youtube snippets of season 2 and thought there would be enough good content to cancel out the woke crap, but I think I'm wrong:

https://youtu.be/4xbPYIiUH0c

As some of the comments said, Star Fleet wears uniforms and the Federation enforces borders and requires IDs, but it's okay when they do it.
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Sounds like I'll be skipping Star Trek - Strange New Worlds as well.

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Christina Chong is an international television and film actress who stars in the brand-new CBS series "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" (May 2022) alongside Anson Mount and Rebecca Romijn. As series regular La'an Noonien-Singh,' she channels her inner fighter, to win over adversity no matter what. The series will expand the iconic franchise, adding six new crew members on the USS Enterprise, alongside its familiar trio of lead characters. For Christina, the focus on equality and diversity in the Star Trek franchise very much leads back to her own personal journey in Hollywood.
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Related to Khan?


(ETA: apparently so.    https://screenrant.com/strange-new-worlds-khan-laan-noonien-singh-canon/)
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Never forget that Star Trek is the reason we all have to suffer from George Takei and Will Wheaton running their *expletive deleted*ing mouths.
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Oh, apparently Seven of Nine is now a carpet muncher.
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On the show, or Jeri Ryan?
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