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USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« on: April 14, 2022, 05:51:40 PM »
I just came across this so bear with me and well, *expletive deleted*it

USS The Sullivans partially sinking at Buffalo and Erie County Naval and Military Park
https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/uss-the-sullivans-appears-to-be-sinking-at-buffalo-and-erie-county-naval-and-military-park

USS The Sullivans taking on water rapidly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fjyk2vosUs

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhIWGNuDcUI

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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2022, 06:02:02 PM »
Someone forgot to put the bilge drain plug in.

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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2022, 06:38:45 PM »
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Park Naval park leadership reports a major breach in the hull has caused the ship to take on water.

Emergency repair crews from Bidco Marine Group, including an underwater diving team, are at the scene working to determine what caused the breach. Another crew is pumping water on the deck.

The naval park says the breach is aft of midship on the starboard side, causing the ship to tilt back and to the right.
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2022, 07:19:22 PM »
How do you get a major hull breach on a ship parked at the dock?
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2022, 07:22:04 PM »
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2022, 07:28:11 PM »
How do you get a major hull breach on a ship parked at the dock?

Corrosion is a bitch.

Expect to see a lot more of this in museum ships. Few have the resources for drydocking and maintenance.

The one in my state (Patriot’s Point) is going to scrap their submarine (Clagamore) and the carrier (Yorktown) is in poor shape hull wise.

The channel that I cannot recommend enough, Battleship New Jersey talks a lot about operating museum ships and the challenge of doing so.
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2022, 07:39:59 PM »
I was just about to post about this. It's a sad fate for a famous ship. Even sadder is that the park has collected over $1 million to restore the hull of The Sullivans, but they apparently didn't start the project soon enough.
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2022, 01:25:50 AM »
They are preparing the Battleship Texas to move to a dry dock in Galveston this year for a $35 Million hull repair project. 
I think the ship's internal structure was getting bad.  There was/is concern the ship would sink trying to get it to a dry dock. 
https://battleshiptexas.org/battleship-updates/

There has been talk about the ship moving to a permanent dry dock after the repair so it won't be in the water at all.  The location might change. 

Either way, I am glad the money was raised as it might have sunk into the mud in its current location soon.
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2022, 07:35:21 AM »
I didn't realize corrosion was such a huge problem.  Makes sense though.  We used to have the "ghost fleet" in the James River, but I guess it was a losing battle with ships that were 40-50 years old.  Makes me wonder about the USS Wisconsin parked in Norfolk.  A very impressive thing.
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2022, 08:38:09 AM »
I'm sure not a video Drach wanted to be in while on his US trip

What Happened To USS The Sullivans (DD-537) with Drachinifel and Ryan Szimanski
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZvY2s5rRQI
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2022, 09:55:21 AM »
One of the articles said the epoxy they wanted to use to repair the hull wouldn't set until the water temperature got warmer.

Hmmm . . . fixiing it with epoxy? Should have used FlexSeal, they make entire small boats out of that according to the TV commercials!
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2022, 10:02:03 AM »
I didn't realize corrosion was such a huge problem.  Makes sense though.  We used to have the "ghost fleet" in the James River, but I guess it was a losing battle with ships that were 40-50 years old.  Makes me wonder about the USS Wisconsin parked in Norfolk.  A very impressive thing.

Considering that the USS Olympia, a Spanish American War vintage armored cruiser, has been in the water continuously since 1945 with rather limited maintenance it's amazing that she's still afloat.
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2022, 10:29:07 AM »
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2022, 10:42:24 AM »
One of the articles said the epoxy they wanted to use to repair the hull wouldn't set until the water temperature got warmer.

Hmmm . . . fixiing it with epoxy? Should have used FlexSeal, they make entire small boats out of that according to the TV commercials!

Funny, but sad.

I guess wooden ships don't corrode, but have other maintenance problems.

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And her guns still work.

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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2022, 11:36:18 AM »
Funny, but sad.

I guess wooden ships don't corrode, but have other maintenance problems.

Launched 1797:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Constitution

And her guns still work.

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https://youtu.be/OC5NfQW7h_k (3:10)

Approx 85-90% of the original wood has been replaced on the USS Constitution over the years.
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2022, 12:31:10 PM »
And the USS Constitution is still a U.S. Navy commissioned ship, so the gummint pays to maintain her.
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2022, 04:10:51 PM »
And the USS Constitution is still a U.S. Navy commissioned ship, so the gummint pays to maintain her.
Its combat systems probably are more resistant to EMP than those on any of our other warships.
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2022, 04:24:24 PM »
I'm sure not a video Drach wanted to be in while on his US trip

What Happened To USS The Sullivans (DD-537) with Drachinifel and Ryan Szimanski
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZvY2s5rRQI
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2022, 06:01:06 AM »
Its combat systems probably are more resistant to EMP than those on any of our other warships.

Yes, but the CIWS is a bit slow to fire.
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2022, 08:48:13 AM »
Hopefully, they can get it to the point of a full on dry dock repair.
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2022, 08:58:40 AM »
How do you get a major hull breach on a ship parked at the dock?

From the latest update, it appears they didn't have a major hull breach, they had 34 minor hull breaches. Which means there are probably hundreds more just waiting to happen.
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2022, 10:48:04 AM »
From the latest update, it appears they didn't have a major hull breach, they had 34 minor hull breaches. Which means there are probably hundreds more just waiting to happen.
They said wooden plugs were used . . . so they're in essence driving in corks. Hope they have something more permanent in mind.
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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2022, 02:57:45 PM »
They said wooden plugs were used . . . so they're in essence driving in corks. Hope they have something more permanent in mind.

Wood plugs, oakum, and shoring are immediate damage control (first aid and bandages) for the ship.  After that comes the welding.

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Re: USS The Sullivans sinking at pierside
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2022, 01:47:36 PM »
I often view the weather on my phone. Last week - or so - it was claimed that Climate Change (gasp!) was responsible for the ship taking on water.

Apparently, (a word I’ve since forgotten, but meaning strong straight wind for an extended period) can push lake water as though a tide does, raising the water level downwind. That’s what is sinking the Sullivan.

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