Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade

[MillCreek]

We'll see if this pans out. I'm not ready to believe the girl exists.

One of the lead stories on tonight's NBC network news:  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/republicans-express-shock-10-year-old-can-get-pregnant-doubting-ohio-r-rcna38284

[Bogie]

It is possible. At both ends of the age range.
 
HOWEVER, is it likely?

[sumpnz]

Of course some 10 year olds can get pregnant if they have sex.  A buddy’s daughter hit menarche shortly after turning 9.  Not unheard of, especially for obese girls, to hit that while still 8.  Fortunately my older daughter didn’t hit menarche until 11, younger daughter is 9 and not even starting puberty yet so she’ll probably be 12-13.

What has lots of people on the right highly skeptical is that it was a little too convenient timing, and the arrest seems rather suspicious too.  Ohio AG says they haven’t heard anything, then suddenly this guy is arrested and confessed the next day?  I wouldn’t put it past the left to give the guy some money to sign the “confession” and promised him a quick deportation and no prison time here.  I’m still skeptical the girl was ever pregnant, if she was even a real person.

[cordex]

Whatever the reality of this particular 10 year old scenario, it has happened and it no doubt will happen again.

That said, the pro-abortionists are not concerned with the 10 year-olds (or victims of rape or incest) except as a means to a much broader end.  Ohio claims that their laws would have allowed that girl to terminate her presidency already, and pro-abortionists are not arguing for exceptions for certain age ranges or edge-case situations anyway.  Those are simply the mediagenic outliers they use to sell unrestricted, on-demand abortion.

If a pro-abortionist genuinely wants to discuss outlawing on-demand abortion with exceptions only for outlier cases then I'm willing to listen to their concerns about real or imaginary 10 year-olds, but otherwise I dismiss the sophistry as entirely irrelevant.

[WLJ]

I'm now officially confused as to what is going on with this story.
Report listed the rapist as a minor (17) and the girl's mother is saying  "everything they say about [Gerson Flores] is a lie" 

Ohio 10-year-old's alleged illegal immigrant rapist, 27, was listed as minor in abortionist’s report to state
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ohio-10-year-old-alleged-illegal-immigrant-rapist-27-listed-minor-abortionists-report-state

[WLJ]

Okay
The abortionist lied about the father, reported him as a 17 year old minor when he was actually 27.
For some reason I couldn't get that straight in my head. I blame lack of coffee at the time.
Appears she did it in an attempt to protect the father from rape charges.

[MillCreek]

Is there any news yet as to how Mr. Flores got access to the little girl?

[Pb]

Is there any news yet as to how Mr. Flores got access to the little girl?

Don't know about this case... but child rapists are usually "mom's boyfriend."   

[Pb]

And... the mom of the raped girl is defending the rapist.... no direct confirmation, but I bet I nailed it with "mom's boyfriend."   

She's from Guatemala.

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=63213

[sumpnz]

Much of especially rural South America has, shall I say, different attitudes regarding sexual activity for girls post-menarche than we do.  Girls are seen as fair game once they get their period.

[JTHunter]

There used to be a quote that was reasonably accurate in which females that were "under 18 were protected by law and those over 70 were protected by age" but that isn't the case anymore. 

[Pb]

Women were traditionally protected by their fathers, and then their husbands.
This poor little girl apparently had no father around.  And her mother brought her abuser into the home apparently.
Biological fathers commit much lower rates of abuse than "mom's boyfriend" or "stepdad."
Married women have much lower rates of rape than single women.

Faithful marriage and biological families, in general, are heathier than all alternatives devised.

Bastardry, divorce and fornication are the most destructive forces in the USA.  (I do realize that some people have good reasons for divorce.  Overall, I think the point is true however.)

Imagine what the USA would be like if we all grew up planning to marry, working to stay married, and have children that we care for.  Imagine if wives were taught to respect and obey their husbands.  Imagine if husbands were taught to love and care for their wives and children, and to be gentle with them.  Imagine if men like this were given respect by the community as heads of their houses.  Imagine if boys actually wanted to grow up and marry and care for a family.

Both for divorce rate and our bastardry rate are over 40% I believe.  Who is paying for these kids?  Who is modeling proper masculine behavior for the boys?  Who is modeling proper feminine behavior for the girls?

I don't think what is wrong with the USA can be fixed by laws or leaders.

[Perd Hapley]

Women were traditionally protected by their fathers, and then their husbands.
This poor little girl apparently had no father around.  And her mother brought her abuser into the home apparently.
Biological fathers commit much lower rates of abuse than "mom's boyfriend" or "stepdad."
Married women have much lower rates of rape than single women.

Faithful marriage and biological families, in general, are heathier than all alternatives devised.

Bastardry, divorce and fornication are the most destructive forces in the USA.  (I do realize that some people have good reasons for divorce.  Overall, I think the point is true however.)

Imagine what the USA would be like if we all grew up planning to marry, working to stay married, and have children that we care for.  Imagine if wives were taught to respect and obey their husbands.  Imagine if husbands were taught to love and care for their wives and children, and to be gentle with them.  Imagine if men like this were given respect by the community as heads of their houses.  Imagine if boys actually wanted to grow up and marry and care for a family.

Both or divorce rate and our bastardry rate are over 40% I believe.  Who is paying for these kids?  Who is modeling proper masculine behavior for the boys?  Who is modeling proper feminine behavior for the girls?

I don't think what is wrong with the USA can be fixed by laws or leaders.

This, obviously.

[Ben]

AOC has been arrested for protesting at the SC. Though it appears that the handcuffs are magical. Also no mugshots or actual booking. Pretty much just escorted away from the area.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/07/19/watch-stunningly-brave-aoc-pretending-to-be-handcuffed-during-arrest-for-pro-abort-protest-outside-scotus-is-just-spectacular/

https://twitter.com/i/status/1549445391585878022

EDIT: Apparently Omar is claiming she was arrested too, and her staff are making statements that she was handcuffed, though video clearly show her pretending too. Yet this will be disseminated everywhere as fact, and Twitter's "disinformation" team will be nowhere to be found.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/07/19/watch-ilhan-omar-borrows-aocs-invisible-handcuffs-and-takes-herself-into-police-custody/

[Ben]

I was just looking at youtube clips from the various MSM sites on this "arrest". It is astounding how many comments to the videos are saying that AOC, et al were all actually handcuffed. There has been some creative editing by sites like USA Today and ABC that cut the segments from behind showing them holding their own hands behind their backs, but the number of people falling for it and screaming at anyone who says it's not true is astounding. It's the covid mass formation psychosis that Dr Robert Malone was talking about being played out. And of course Malone was called a crackpot for suggesting something like that existed.

[JN01]

I thought those leftist whackos were opposed to insurrection against a branch of government.

[WLJ]

More from AOC
She wasn't faking because she was faking    

    No faking here. Putting your hands behind your back is a best practice while detained, handcuffed or not, to avoid escalating charges like resisting arrest.

    But given how you lied about a fellow rape survivor for “points,” as you put it to me, I don’t expect much else from you. pic.twitter.com/lUc1TPS21D

    — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) July 20, 2022

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/07/20/aoc-defends-her-honor-gives-gop-rep-nancy-mace-a-totally-believable-explanation-as-to-why-she-was-wearing-fake-handcuffs/

[dogmush]

What's the own here?  She said she was arrested, the PoPo said they arrested her.  Is the lack of flexicuffs so damning?

[WLJ]

What's the own here?  She said she was arrested, the PoPo said they arrested her.  Is the lack of flexicuffs so damning?

It's the handcuff act part that is getting the attention because it's another example of a how a left wing pol can lie and have the MSM back them up in the lie.

She was trying to act like she was handcuffed
She said she was handcuffed
A bunch of MSM was and still is breathlessly reporting she was handcuffed.
Some outlets only showed video edited in such a way to make it appear she was actually handcuffed
Now she's trying to come up with excuses for lying about it now that she's been called out on it

This was another attempt to make everything about her

[Ben]

What's the own here?  She said she was arrested, the PoPo said they arrested her.  Is the lack of flexicuffs so damning?

I guess if getting a citation is getting arrested, then she was arrested. I have apparently then been arrested as well for traffic violations in the past.

Lack of cuffs is damning when she's pretending that she WAS cuffed.

https://twitter.com/odonnell_r/status/1549549072868048896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1549800112662126594%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fsarahd-313035%2F2022%2F07%2F20%2Fyou-should-take-aocs-arrest-paperwork-just-as-seriously-as-you-took-her-handcuffs-pic%2F

[dogmush]

I have not seen anything from her, the squad, or her people saying she was cuffed.  I have seen breathless twitchy comments that "OMG She's not cuffed!".  If you got a quote, I'd love to see it.

Methinks the Twitchy doth protest to much on this one.

There's no own here except that as a legislator she could have been trying to pass a law to address her concern rather than blocking traffic, which is an option not a lot of protesters have.

[Ben]

I have not seen anything from her, the squad, or her people saying she was cuffed.  I have seen breathless twitchy comments that "OMG She's not cuffed!".  If you got a quote, I'd love to see it.

Methinks the Twitchy doth protest to much on this one.

There's no own here except that as a legislator she could have been trying to pass a law to address her concern rather than blocking traffic, which is an option not a lot of protesters have.

She's literally walking out in the "cuffed" pose.

[dogmush]

Side note:

While cruising AOC's Twitter to see if she claimed cuffedness (ick) I ran across this post from a couple weeks past:

https://twitter.com/RepAOC/status/1547694058436304897?s=20&t=5YrZYDdDVyzk5TCOKJvJQw

Wherein the squad of merrymakers urges Congress to pass some act stripping the Federal Courts, including SCOTUS, of jurisdiction over a variety of super-duper important rights.  They claim that Article III gives Congress the right to limit the Federal Courts, and that seems to be backed up with things like the Judiciary Act and other laws.

My question for the legal minded:  If you have a problem with a federal law, and the fed.courts have been stripped of jurisdiction by Congress, wouldn't that mean your State courts get to rule on it for your state?  I can't imagine the balance of powers allows congress to just say "We did x, and it's not allowed to be reviewed by anyone".

[WLJ]

I have not seen anything from her, the squad, or her people saying she was cuffed.  I have seen breathless twitchy comments that "OMG She's not cuffed!".  If you got a quote, I'd love to see it.

I could be wrong on her claiming she was actually handcuffed but scanning headlines I did see the words handcuff or handcuffed on maybe sites like MSNBC, CNN, and I think BBCNews. I was actually trying to ignore the story at time so I didn't dig into them.
They may have since either moved on, edited or removed the stories since she been getting call out on it and been looking more and stupid because it. I haven't looked since.

[WLJ]

She's literally walking out in the "cuffed" pose.

At one point she raises her fist and then goes right back to the cuffed pose