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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #350 on: June 20, 2022, 07:24:12 PM »

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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #351 on: June 21, 2022, 12:34:45 AM »

She seems nice.
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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #352 on: June 21, 2022, 01:38:50 AM »

She seems nice.


Most likely in the no-go zone of the hot/crazy matrix.

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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #353 on: June 21, 2022, 04:48:21 PM »

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    A pro-abortion protester heckles at activists with Students for Life, she tells them to ďsuck my dick, bitchĒ and mimics jerking off.

    Hard to hear, I think she said,
    ďYou will not take my right away! I will always get an abortion! Iíll go in a back alley and will *expletive deleted*ing die!Ē pic.twitter.com/5LDKPahzK0

    ó Julio Rosas (@Julio_Rosas11) June 21, 2022
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/06/21/i-will-always-get-an-abortion-julio-rosas-shares-video-of-some-pro-abortion-protesters-in-front-of-scotus/

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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #354 on: June 21, 2022, 05:15:16 PM »

Which one is crazier: Reply #350 or #353?

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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #355 on: June 21, 2022, 05:19:15 PM »

Which one is crazier: Reply #350 or #353?

Whichever one you choose someone will be along shortly to top it.
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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #356 on: June 21, 2022, 05:21:40 PM »

Whichever one you choose someone will be along shortly to top it.

... especially if Roe v. Wade is overturned.
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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #357 on: June 21, 2022, 05:53:07 PM »

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/06/21/i-will-always-get-an-abortion-julio-rosas-shares-video-of-some-pro-abortion-protesters-in-front-of-scotus/
 
    Hard to hear, I think she said,
    ďYou will not take my right away! I will always get an abortion! Iíll go in a back alley and will *expletive deleted*ing die!Ē pic.twitter.com/5LDKPahzK0

    ó Julio Rosas (@Julio_Rosas11) June 21, 2022


Those terms are acceptable.

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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #358 on: June 21, 2022, 05:58:51 PM »

Most likely in the no-go zone of the hot/crazy matrix.

Well, she DID say she's psycho ...

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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #359 on: June 22, 2022, 03:47:34 PM »

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/ag-ellison-minnesota-visitors-seeking-legal-abortion-wont-be-prosecuted/

Is there any talk what so ever about future abortion is illegal states going after their own residents who may seek an abortion in a future abortion is legal state? I just find it odd that the MN AG said this.
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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #360 on: June 22, 2022, 03:56:15 PM »

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/ag-ellison-minnesota-visitors-seeking-legal-abortion-wont-be-prosecuted/

Is there any talk what so ever about future abortion us illegal states going after their own residents who may seek an abortion in a future abortion is legal state? I just find it odd that the MN AG said this.

It didn't need to be said; of course they wouldn't be prosecuted because no law was broken in MN.  Ellison likes to hear himself talk, plus he's sucking-up to the Democrat national party.
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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #361 on: June 22, 2022, 05:27:52 PM »

The USA prosecutes people who go overseas to sexually exploit children.  Even if itís not illegal (or enforced if it is) where they did that.  Itís not unthinkable that politicians in some red state could enact legislation that made travel or abetting travel for the express purpose of obtaining an abortion illegal.  I doubt they could prosecute the doctor/clinic personnel in the blue state, but they could go after the woman and anyone who knowingly assisted in the travel (paying for plane/bus/train/Uber fare, loaning a vehicle, actually driving the woman there, etc).  Just maybe not for the abortion per se.

The problem, logistically at least, is that, unless someone decides to make themselves a test case like Larry Flynt and his buddies with challenging anti-pornography laws in the 70ís, you canít really know why any given woman is traveling from Wyoming to Minnesota.  We donít require women to register their menstrual cycles, thankfully, so itís impossible to know if a woman is pregnant (she could just be fat).  So, without a massive surveillance state, it would only be applied to women and their abettors when someone decides to tattle on their pregnancy.  Or as a matter of revenge when a relationship goes sour. 

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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #362 on: June 22, 2022, 09:20:11 PM »

If I squint, I can see another way

Patient list obtained from abortion provider (in whatever fashion) given to agent of anti abortion state.

Assuming, of course, such records are kept (and people don't use false credentials)
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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #363 on: June 23, 2022, 12:40:57 AM »

If I squint, I can see another way

Patient list obtained from abortion provider (in whatever fashion) given to agent of anti abortion state.

Assuming, of course, such records are kept (and people don't use false credentials)

Highly likely to be ruled inadmissible as evidence as it would have to have been obtained illegally in such an example.  Either a violation of patient privacy by a clinic worker, or robbery, or such. 

Listen, Iím as pro-life as as most people here, but Iím also opposed to totalitarian regimes.  And criminalizing travel to other states to obtain an abortion requires a degree of totalitarianism Iím very opposed to.

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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #364 on: June 23, 2022, 12:48:48 AM »

Everyone knows that everything outside major metros is Footloose Country, and people in MAGA hats will make you have their babies.
 
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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #365 on: June 23, 2022, 12:56:17 PM »

Seem to recall a work around on inadmissable evidence. Something like "codeveloped" or some such

Basically, the police claiming that evidence had been found/developed, and the inadmissible was just corroboration of the good stuff.

Not saying I like it. Not saying I would condone it. But COULD see someone using it
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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #366 on: June 23, 2022, 02:29:40 PM »

As far as I know, pro-life advocates and the laws they support have not generally gone after the people getting the abortion.  They targeted the doctors/clinics.  I can see them trying to go after people recruiting women for abortions in states where it is illegal.  I imagine it wouldn't be that hard to collect the evidence once police have enough to subpoena phone records and such.  As far as identifying them in the first place, eventually you are going to see parents or friends or prospective fathers report the people. 

I don't know how that will work out in the courts, but I fully expect abortion advocates to push the limits as far as they can in ban states forcing pro-life advocates to react to try to stop them. 
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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #367 on: June 23, 2022, 02:47:47 PM »

The USA prosecutes people who go overseas to sexually exploit children.  Even if itís not illegal (or enforced if it is) where they did that.  Itís not unthinkable that politicians in some red state could enact legislation that made travel or abetting travel for the express purpose of obtaining an abortion illegal.  I doubt they could prosecute the doctor/clinic personnel in the blue state, but they could go after the woman and anyone who knowingly assisted in the travel (paying for plane/bus/train/Uber fare, loaning a vehicle, actually driving the woman there, etc).  Just maybe not for the abortion per se.

The problem, logistically at least, is that, unless someone decides to make themselves a test case like Larry Flynt and his buddies with challenging anti-pornography laws in the 70ís, you canít really know why any given woman is traveling from Wyoming to Minnesota.  We donít require women to register their menstrual cycles, thankfully, so itís impossible to know if a woman is pregnant (she could just be fat).  So, without a massive surveillance state, it would only be applied to women and their abettors when someone decides to tattle on their pregnancy.  Or as a matter of revenge when a relationship goes sour.

The Atty General of Minnesota has no say-so about other states trying to prosecute women who come here for an abortion.  (it's unlikely they would do that anyway)  Perhaps he can say that his office will not cooperate with any such prosecutions, but IFAIK that's not what he said.  Perhaps he's an idiot and doesn't realize that he doesn't prosecute alleged crime in other states.  I wouldn't totally rule out the idiot angle, but I think he's just grandstanding; perhaps has aspirations for a federal appointment or plans to run for US Senate and wants DNC and Soros backing
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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #368 on: June 23, 2022, 03:01:29 PM »

Not a big fan of the idea of prosecuting someone for committing an act that is not a crime in the jurisdiction where it was committed. (yes the underage sex thing is egregious and someone that travels to screw kids is scum I'm not sure about prosecuting them at home, better they should have a tragic and fatal accident while still abroad)
May be a bit of a reach but let's say I own some evil assault type weapons that are illegal in California. I don't live in California but I travel there (gourd know why) but I leave my evil assault type weapon at home. Under the idea of being able to prosecute someone for doing something that is illegal in the location of prosecution but not in the location it was done in, California could prosecute people from out of state for owning "illegal assault weapons" when they enter California even though they ae not in possession of the weapon. Or prosecute a resident that owns an "illegal assault weapon" but keeps it at a 2nd residence in another state.
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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #369 on: June 23, 2022, 04:32:15 PM »

RvW you're up!
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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #370 on: June 23, 2022, 05:15:35 PM »

Speaking of which
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    BREAKING: The Department of Homeland Security is communicating with Catholic Churches and pregnancy centers, telling them to be prepared for a "Night of Rage" by pro-abortion groups pledging "extreme violence" the night of the Dobbs decision.

    ó Lila Rose (@LilaGraceRose) June 23, 2022
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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #371 on: June 23, 2022, 05:30:28 PM »

Speaking of whichhttps://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/06/23/report-dhs-warning-pregnancy-crisis-centers-to-be-prepared-for-a-night-of-rage/

I don't doubt there are notices going out, but looking at that one a little sideways. "Night of rage" is not typical DHS language. They would more likely say something like "Be prepared for highly elevated chances of violent and destructive behavior directed at organizations, buildings, and individuals". Besides, they have been issuing heightened-awareness notices for a week or two.

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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #372 on: June 23, 2022, 05:40:38 PM »

I don't doubt there are notices going out, but looking at that one a little sideways. "Night of rage" is not typical DHS language. They would more likely say something like "Be prepared for highly elevated chances of violent and destructive behavior directed at organizations, buildings, and individuals". Besides, they have been issuing heightened-awareness notices for a week or two.

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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #373 on: June 23, 2022, 06:54:04 PM »

Speaking of whichhttps://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/06/23/report-dhs-warning-pregnancy-crisis-centers-to-be-prepared-for-a-night-of-rage/

I am surprised that DHS didn't say be prepared as conservative organizations and white supremacists take to the streets to violently celebrate RvW being overturned.  That's been their speed of late.
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Re: Being reported the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe v. Wade
« Reply #374 on: June 23, 2022, 07:31:35 PM »

RKL just kinda hit what my fear is

Because honestly, on either issue, I could see a DA trying to push such a prosecution as a grandstand.
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