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Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« on: May 05, 2022, 09:58:14 AM »

Be aware there may be a serious issue in Kias and Hyundais even after recall inspections and repairs

Kias and Hyundais continue to burn after 5.8 million cars and SUVs recalled
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local-news/up-in-flames/kias-and-hyundais-continue-to-burn-after-5-8-million-cars-and-suvs-recalled

Hyundai and Kia tell owners of nearly 500,000 vehicles to park outside due to fire risk
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/08/business/hyundai-kia-fire-recall/index.html

Consumer Alert: Kia and Hyundai Issue Park Outside Orders for Select Sportage, K900 and Santa Fe Vehicles
https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/consumer-alert-kia-and-hyundai-issue-park-outside-orders-select-sportage-k900-and
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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2022, 10:45:59 PM »

Lots and lotsa energy in those cells.

Sometimes it gets out and runs around loose.

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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2022, 10:49:22 PM »

Lots and lotsa energy in those cells.

Sometimes it gets out and runs around loose.

It's trying to find a way to France, it knows it is supposed to follow the path of least resistance.

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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2022, 11:34:00 PM »

Well, any new power tech is bound to have problems.  Even with steam we  had boiler explosions and fires until we learned to handle it.

"Gluk min khukah!  Gluk min khukah!*" was probably hollered with the first cave fire.

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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2022, 11:44:00 PM »

Lots and lotsa energy in those cells.

Sometimes it gets out and runs around loose.

Cells?

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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2022, 11:58:45 PM »

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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2022, 12:08:40 AM »

Using individual cells in series or parallel constitute a battery.

Individual AA or AAA cells are cells.  Strung together, they form a battery.  The 9UV 9 volt battery is actually a battery, with 6 tiny internal cells of ~1.5 volts each connected together.

1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 = 9

Battery and cell often get confused because of blurred and slurred usage.

Your 12 Volt car battery is actually 6 ~2 Volt cells hooked together.

Like energy and power are constantly confused.  Not the same thing.

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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2022, 12:18:54 AM »

Your car battery is also probably multiple cells...
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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2022, 07:45:31 AM »

Just for clarification, these articles are about combustion engine cars with faulty ABS modules and/or fuel and oil leaks.

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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2022, 11:43:19 AM »

Using individual cells in series or parallel constitute a battery.

Individual AA or AAA cells are cells.  Strung together, they form a battery.  The 9UV 9 volt battery is actually a battery, with 6 tiny internal cells of ~1.5 volts each connected together.

1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 = 9

Battery and cell often get confused because of blurred and slurred usage.

Your 12 Volt car battery is actually 6 ~2 Volt cells hooked together.

Like energy and power are constantly confused.  Not the same thing.

Terry

But the issue here is automobiles powered by internal combustion engines. We're not talking about electric or even hybrid vehicles.

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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2022, 01:29:22 PM »

Oh !  I'm embarrassed.  Never mind. <gulp>

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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2022, 03:44:34 PM »

But the issue here is automobiles powered by internal combustion engines. We're not talking about electric or even hybrid vehicles.

Well hell, but what does it mean when people talk about cars torching themselves and the first thing many people think of are the current crop of electric vehicles?  People are still wary of the technology. ;)

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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2022, 07:24:53 PM »

Well hell, but what does it mean when people talk about cars torching themselves and the first thing many people think of are the current crop of electric vehicles?  People are still wary of the technology. ;)

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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2022, 10:34:23 AM »

More Hyundai woes

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Government regulators said that the driver’s and front passenger’s seat belt pretensioners, which tighten the belts in preparation for a crash, can explode upon deployment and send shrapnel throughout the vehicle.
WTF?

Hyundai recalls 239,000 cars for exploding seat belt parts
https://www.wave3.com/2022/05/24/hyundai-recalls-239000-cars-exploding-seat-belt-parts/
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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2022, 02:19:03 PM »

WTF?
Huh.  I didn't know that pretensioners use explosives.  Some interesting videos online.

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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2022, 02:24:51 PM »

If your airbags blow, your belt tensioners lock...
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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2022, 02:25:06 PM »

Huh.  I didn't know that pretensioners use explosives.  Some interesting videos online.

Me neither until now which explains my WTF. I had no idea.
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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2022, 09:29:06 AM »

Okay, here's a battery going up

An Electric Bus Caught Fire After Battery Explosion in Paris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-yN8SugWM
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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2022, 10:36:40 AM »

Y' know, I think I'll stick with my '97 Outback.

And spare keys only cost about $8.75 per each.

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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2022, 11:53:03 AM »

Okay, here's a battery going up

An Electric Bus Caught Fire After Battery Explosion in Paris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-yN8SugWM

Was out walking last night.  Saw, in somebody's driveway, a Chevy Bolt with charging cable attached.   Apparently they're apt to spontaneous combustion.  (https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/recall-all-chevy-bolt-vehicles-fire-risk.)

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Re: Kias and Hyundais catching fire
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2022, 04:11:42 AM »

Man, we are gonna hafta go nuke on power sooner or later.