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New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« on: May 05, 2022, 06:55:15 PM »

This will be under DOJ. It appears they'll have enviro-cops. If they're anything like the EPA LEOs I ran into at work, they'll be gung ho aholes.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/05/05/these-lunatics-are-dangerous-ag-merrick-garland-announces-creation-of-office-of-environmental-justice/
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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2022, 06:57:21 PM »

So, if I'm watering my lawn, I could be charged with a hate crime because some inner city multi-gender, multi-binary, muli-nonbinary, multi-trinary family of strong people of color doesn't have a lawn?

OK... OK OK OK...

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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2022, 07:32:01 PM »

Remember, if you want justice, you seek justice. If you want something unjust, you call it something else.

Like environmental justice.
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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2022, 08:03:19 PM »

Another way to funnel billions if not trillions to the right people while simultaneously ratcheting up the totalitarianism
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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2022, 08:24:33 PM »

Guuhhhhhhgggghhhhhh.

Just shoot me and get get it over with.

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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2022, 08:52:53 PM »

From the DOJ website, emphasis mine:

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“EPA and the Justice Department’s partnership to protect overburdened and underserved communities across America has never been stronger,” said EPA Administrator Regan. “This environmental justice enforcement strategy epitomizes the Biden-Harris Administration’s commitment to holding polluters accountable as a means to deliver on our environmental justice priorities. Critical to that is the return of Supplemental Environmental Projects as a tool to secure tangible public health benefits for communities harmed by environmental violations.”

Something tells me this is more about "justice" (not the traditional kind) rather than the environment.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-launches-comprehensive-environmental-justice-strategy
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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2022, 09:18:25 PM »

I can see all sorts of potential for abuse. Kind of scary.
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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2022, 09:27:21 PM »

I think there was a book about this kind of crap. We might even be discussing the author in another thread.
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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2022, 09:36:48 PM »

So a new department of bullshit with distinct uniforms?  ATF should be just tickled to be the second most hated LEO.

Convenient.   [popcorn]
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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2022, 11:34:48 PM »

Wade through the gobbledygook and you'll probably find out part of the program will do things like buying air conditioners for hood rats.

Soon the hood rats will figure out the government-provided A/C units contain copper pipes they can sell for cash - whereupon .gov will replace the damaged or missing units - no questions asked - because, well, JUSTICE.

And . . . Profit!
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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2022, 06:43:45 AM »

Another way to funnel billions if not trillions to the right people while simultaneously ratcheting up the totalitarianism

Well and truly stated.

Funny, first thing I thought of when seeing the OP's title was "Oh, great, another federal agency packing rods," even before I opened the thread.

So, if I'm watering my lawn, I could be charged with a hate crime because some inner city multi-gender, multi-binary, multi-nonbinary, multi-trinary family of strong people of color doesn't have a lawn?

OK... OK OK OK...

There's a scary element of truth in that scene.

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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2022, 07:07:04 AM »

Why does this feel like the opening act of the Zimbabwe Land Reallocation opera?
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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2022, 07:13:21 AM »

Why does this feel like the opening act of the Zimbabwe Land Reallocation opera?

Because it probably is. I have noticed lately that the left has been pushing a lot of hate against landlords and property owners and calling for the seizure and re-distribution of property. It has been very heavily pushed especially in the leftist groups on social media in the past few months.
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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2022, 08:35:05 AM »

Because it probably is. I have noticed lately that the left has been pushing a lot of hate against landlords and property owners and calling for the seizure and re-distribution of property. It has been very heavily pushed especially in the leftist groups on social media in the past few months.
Something like that would probably start small scale.  I am trying to imagine where it would kick off.  I assume in the inner cities where local govt is more likely to support it.
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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2022, 08:57:12 AM »

Why does this feel like the opening act of the Zimbabwe Land Reallocation opera?
Well, a lot of POCs never got the "40 acres and a mule" they think their ancestors were promised, and which they think they're entitled to even if their progenitors immigrated long after the Civil War. There WILL be a push for "reparations" for people untouched by slavery, collected from people who never were involved in slavery. Despite the fact that both the last slave and last slave owner died a long time ago.

And the administration press releases have been mentioning "tribal lands" a lot lately . . . Oklahoma is running into difficulty from court rulings by an activist judiciary when it comes to prosecuting crimes on "tribal lands" covering a BIG part of the state. Watch for more - a LOT more - of this cr@p, designed solely to divide and weaken this nation by people who hate this country and its people.
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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2022, 09:59:55 AM »

Because it probably is. I have noticed lately that the left has been pushing a lot of hate against landlords and property owners and calling for the seizure and re-distribution of property. It has been very heavily pushed especially in the leftist groups on social media in the past few months.

I saw that in action many years ago. When I started work as the [only] staff architect for the public housing agency in the nearby city, the housing authority had just taken over a 150-unit, townhouse style housing project from private ownership. The housing authority was in the midst of renovating all the units to bring them into compliance with HUD Minimum Property Standards.

The results were predictable. Within a couple of years after the acquisition, most of the units had been trashed by the occupants. I haven't driven through there for several years. The last time I did, most of the Housing Authority units were vacant and boarded up, because they had been so thoroughly trashed that there wasn't enough money or manpower to keep up with repairs. Meanwhile, directly across the street there were two privately-owned projects of similar age, design, and size. Those projects were fully occupied, the lawns were cut, the grounds weren't so full of junk that they looked like a landfill, there wasn't graffiti on all the walls, there wasn't an abandoned, stripped car anywhere to be seen ... The contrast was instructive.
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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2022, 10:11:30 AM »

I live next to a Section 8 low-income housing complex.

The big difference?

It's a cooperative, which means that the residents have an incentive to take care of their apartments and the community in general, as opposed to purely public housing projects.

Over the years there have been some issues there, but in general, the place is kept up well, there aren't major problems occurring, the management works hard to keep gangs out of the community, and those who do create problems are generally tossed out of the community in short order.
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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2022, 10:45:12 AM »

Well, a lot of POCs never got the "40 acres and a mule" they think their ancestors were promised, and which they think they're entitled to even if their progenitors immigrated long after the Civil War. There WILL be a push for "reparations" for people untouched by slavery, collected from people who never were involved in slavery. Despite the fact that both the last slave and last slave owner died a long time ago.

And the administration press releases have been mentioning "tribal lands" a lot lately . . . Oklahoma is running into difficulty from court rulings by an activist judiciary when it comes to prosecuting crimes on "tribal lands" covering a BIG part of the state. Watch for more - a LOT more - of this cr@p, designed solely to divide and weaken this nation by people who hate this country and its people.



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Jimcy McGirt was an enrolled member of the Seminole tribe. In 1991, having recently been discharged from prison, he moved in with and married another member of the tribe at Broken Arrow, who was 10 years his senior.[11] McGirt's wife had a granddaughter, whom McGirt would sexually abuse on an almost-daily basis when she was just four years old
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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2022, 12:06:17 PM »

Something like that [seizure and re-distribution of property --ed.] would probably start small scale.  I am trying to imagine where it would kick off.  I assume in the inner cities where local govt is more likely to support it.

It's already started.  Think Rent Control in NYC, which is now an "accepted" fact of life and a beneficial function of the city.  One of my nieces lives in a rent controlled building in Manhattan

 I don't know what it's like in Boulder CO nowadays, but when I left (1990-ish) the city had already started to intrude on the contracting capability of landlords and began controlling the condition of rental properties.  Heck, if a party agreed to live  under a stairwell for a $pittance per month by mutual agreement, that was OK by me.
 
At least it kept him out of the rain snow and wind.

Colorado's Constitution has an article somewhere that says all laws passed must be for the health, benefit and welfare of its people, and I'm sometimes amazed at how far that clause can be stretched by entrenched do-gooders.

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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2022, 12:09:13 AM »

Many years ago (mid '80s), a coworker was telling me of a problem certain POCs had in South Dakota.  He said that the Native Americans that lived on a reservation near his college would need to leave the rez is they ever got decent jobs.  Otherwise, they were expected to "share" their "good fortune" with the rest of the tribe.

Doesn't that sound like socialism/communism to you?
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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2022, 12:22:55 AM »

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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2022, 09:45:41 AM »

Many years ago (mid '80s), a coworker was telling me of a problem certain POCs had in South Dakota.  He said that the Native Americans that lived on a reservation near his college would need to leave the rez is they ever got decent jobs.  Otherwise, they were expected to "share" their "good fortune" with the rest of the tribe.

Doesn't that sound like socialism/communism to you?
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A former colleague grew up near Ft. Sill in Oklahoma. He said the road to the nearest Indian reservation didn't have a gravel shoulder - the shoulder was a virtually solid layer of empty liquor bottles, discarded by Indians driving by. (Environmentally friendly?) Said they lived in crappy shacks but had nice cars and no problem with driving in a heavy state of inebriation. (His stories were sprinkled with a lot of comments about redskins and firewater.)
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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2022, 11:33:11 AM »

Many years ago (mid '80s), a coworker was telling me of a problem certain POCs had in South Dakota.  He said that the Native Americans that lived on a reservation near his college would need to leave the rez is they ever got decent jobs.  Otherwise, they were expected to "share" their "good fortune" with the rest of the tribe.

Doesn't that sound like socialism/communism to you?
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That's something that is not uncommon among Native American cultures. Yes, it is very definitely socialist, but it's their culture. Genuine tribes are considered by the United States to be sovereign nations with respect to their own tribal members, so if they chose to perpetuate their long-standing social system that's their choice. We don't have to agree with it, but we should respect it. I'm not aware of any tribes who subscribe to that philosophy trying to push it on a national level.

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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2022, 03:12:30 PM »

^ "I'm not aware of any tribes who subscribe to that philosophy trying to push it on a national level."

They don't have to.  The libby-commies are doing it for them.

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Re: New Federal Office of Environmental Justice
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2022, 03:18:37 PM »

Why does this feel like the opening act of the Zimbabwe Land Reallocation opera?





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