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More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« on: May 24, 2022, 11:58:41 AM »
Jesus Christ you have got to be kidding me.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23106061/energy-inequity-world-electricity-american-refrigerators

They provide a nice chart showing this inequality. And know what? Just about every nation on the list is a 5th or 6th world *expletive deleted*it hole with incredibly corrupt governments and virtually no infrastructure.

What does Vox want us to do? Send a couple of buckets of energy to some village in the middle of the Congo rain forest?

Know what? I don't care.
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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2022, 12:19:38 PM »
That does seem to be a stupid comparison.  On par with what I have heard about VOX.
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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2022, 02:38:16 PM »
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a 5th or 6th world *expletive deleted*it hole with incredibly corrupt governments

Coming soon to a USA near you.
We've already got the incredibly corrupt government part covered.
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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2022, 05:14:55 PM »
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5th or 6th world

An aside, my understanding of the whole "3rd world" colloquialism is that it dated back to the Cold War.  There was NATO, there was the Warsaw Pact, and then there was the 3rd World, the unaffiliated and/or unimportant.  I don't think there is any national classification beyond 3rd world.
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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2022, 06:32:23 PM »
An aside, my understanding of the whole "3rd world" colloquialism is that it dated back to the Cold War.  There was NATO, there was the Warsaw Pact, and then there was the 3rd World, the unaffiliated and/or unimportant.  I don't think there is any national classification beyond 3rd world.
Trump had a term - s**thole countries. The wokesters didn't like that term.  :rofl:

And there are some places that aspire to s**thole status.
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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2022, 06:36:17 PM »
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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2022, 07:21:46 PM »
An aside, my understanding of the whole "3rd world" colloquialism is that it dated back to the Cold War.  There was NATO, there was the Warsaw Pact, and then there was the 3rd World, the unaffiliated and/or unimportant.  I don't think there is any national classification beyond 3rd world.


That's dead white male paternalistic colonial talk, you racist bastard!
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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2022, 07:23:05 PM »
And there are some places that aspire to s**thole status."

Yep. Pretty much every country that the Vox article used as an "example" of what bastards we Americans are.
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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2022, 01:07:24 AM »
An aside, my understanding of the whole "3rd world" colloquialism is that it dated back to the Cold War.  There was NATO, there was the Warsaw Pact, and then there was the 3rd World, the unaffiliated and/or unimportant.  I don't think there is any national classification beyond 3rd world.

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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2022, 07:18:34 AM »
An aside, my understanding of the whole "3rd world" colloquialism is that it dated back to the Cold War.  There was NATO, there was the Warsaw Pact, and then there was the 3rd World, the unaffiliated and/or unimportant.  I don't think there is any national classification beyond 3rd world.

 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: ;/ ;/ ;/

I wasn't chiming out to an internationally verified, universally adopted, UN sanctioned geo-political/economic set of data points.

There are some rather nice, and quite attractive and well run "third world" countries.

The countries Vox held out in their article would have to climb a VERY steep incline to ever get to anything other than 5th world shithole status.
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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2022, 09:35:17 AM »
Another thought:  This is just an example to highlight that Communists don't want to bring all people up to the higher standard of living, they want to knock everyone down to the lowest standard of living and try to convince you it is a good thing. 
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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2022, 09:37:35 AM »
Another thought:  This is just an example to highlight that Communists don't want to bring all people up to the higher standard of living, they want to knock everyone down to the lowest standard of living and try to convince you it is a good thing.

The former requires actual work, the latter not so much and is much easier to sell to the masses.
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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2022, 09:43:33 AM »
If you are just burning a 25 watt bulb, you are using more electricity than an infinity of people who don't have power at all.

This isn't really hard to understand.    ;/
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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2022, 09:48:35 AM »
The former requires actual work, the latter not so much and is much easier to sell to the masses.
In a communist country, it requires work and red tape.  In a free market, it just requires the govt to get out of the way and let people do for themselves. 
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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2022, 09:59:02 AM »
Another thought:  This is just an example to highlight that Communists don't want to bring all people up to the higher standard of living, they want to knock everyone down to the lowest standard of living and try to convince you it is a good thing.

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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2022, 11:28:50 AM »
If you are just burning a 25 watt bulb, you are using more electricity and an infinity of people who don't have power at all.

This isn't really hard to understand.    ;/


I'm going to run my air conditioning for an EXTRA long time tonight.
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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2022, 02:56:22 PM »

I'm going to run my air conditioning for an EXTRA long time tonight.

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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2022, 11:42:22 PM »
Another thought:  This is just an example to highlight that Communists don't want to bring all people up to the higher standard of living, they want to knock everyone down to the lowest standard of living and try to convince you it is a good thing. 

Why do so many people miss that point nowadays?

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Useta be that "equality" meant "equality of opportunity," not a dollar to dollar, air conditioner to air conditioner forced equivalence.

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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2022, 08:11:17 AM »
Why do so many people miss that point nowadays?

Useta be that was second nature; a given.

Useta be that "equality" meant "equality of opportunity," not a dollar to dollar, air conditioner to air conditioner forced equivalence.

That's the new woke anti-racism methodology.

If you don't understand that you're an unwoke racist.
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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2022, 08:18:47 AM »
'The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.'
 Winston Churchill ...
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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2022, 09:37:52 AM »

I'm going to run my air conditioning for an EXTRA long time tonight.
And to promote global warming, I'll be putting more tires on the fire I've had burning on my back 40 since 1983.  >:D
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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2022, 10:34:16 AM »
Why do so many people miss that point nowadays?

Useta be that was second nature; a given.

Useta be that "equality" meant "equality of opportunity," not a dollar to dollar, air conditioner to air conditioner forced equivalence.
It was one of the conclusions of the Animal Farm book.  Do kids read that in High School anymore?
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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2022, 04:53:56 PM »
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Useta be that "equality" meant "equality of opportunity," not a dollar to dollar, air conditioner to air conditioner forced equivalence.

It was a pretty common concept --which is what I implied --but it's been many a moon since I read that book.  I think nowadays the only remnant in general usage is "some people/animals are more equal than others."  (Or was that Orwell?)

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Re: More about horrible Americans and forced inequity
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2022, 05:02:26 PM »
'The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.'
 Winston Churchill ...

Church got part of this wrong.  Political leaders usually live very well under socialism.