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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #75 on: December 08, 2022, 08:23:46 AM »
Well, they traded her for the arms dealer:

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/brittney-griner-released-russian-prison-swap-convicted-arms-dealer

I'm sure that now she'll make a few million on a movie and book deal.
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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #76 on: December 08, 2022, 08:43:46 AM »
Bet Oprah already has her booked for a show where we can hear her cry all about it.
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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #77 on: December 08, 2022, 10:33:02 AM »
Sure it'll all be America's and Trump's fault she was in prison
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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #78 on: December 08, 2022, 10:37:38 AM »
In a way her release is a shame.  Are there not other Americans held in Russia?  What about them?  Griner is an embarrassment to America.  She has displayed and spoken that she dislikes her country and an arrogant, self absorbed person who carried a prohibited substance into Russia.  Why not get the releases of other American captives who have done nothing to shame our country first and Griner last.  I have nothing personally against Griner as she is free to speak and act her mind in our America...but to prioritize her over others is shameful virtue signaling.  Just my 2cents.
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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #79 on: December 08, 2022, 10:38:49 AM »
In a way her release is a shame.  Are there not other Americans held in Russia? 

Paul Whelan, for one.
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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #80 on: December 08, 2022, 10:39:18 AM »
In a way her release is a shame.  Are there not other Americans held in Russia?  What about them?  Griner is an embarrassment to America.  She has displayed and spoken that she dislikes her country and an arrogant, self absorbed person who carried a prohibited substance into Russia.  Why not get the releases of other American captives who have done nothing to shame our country first and Griner last.  I have nothing personally against Griner as she is free to speak and act her mind in our America...but to prioritize her over others is shameful virtue signaling.  Just my 2cents.

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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #81 on: December 08, 2022, 10:44:23 AM »
I have already noticed the talking heads have shifted to her being arrested for "suspicion of"  or "alleged" drug smuggling.  Blame is already being diverted from her to the evil, nazi, fascist, horrible Russians.  We're just going to ignore the fact that she did, in fact, try to smuggle drugs into Russia.

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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #82 on: December 08, 2022, 10:44:40 AM »
The very reasons we all hate her is why Biden got her sprung.

She’s a far left black lesbian athlete who hates the US. She checks ALL of the boxes for diversity and worship for the left.
Exactly. But don't forget she's also a druggie, which is probably a bonus box to check on Biden's diversity checklist.
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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #83 on: December 08, 2022, 11:00:17 AM »
Paul Whelan, for one.

And this trade severely kiboshed his release. He is being held as a spy. Bout should have been his trade. Knight for knight. Trading Bout for Griner is like trading your queen for a pawn.

I don't think we have any other "big names" handy to use for Whelan, who actually broke no Russian laws. I heard Biden's speech on this earlier today. He pretty much insinuated she was innocent and pure as the fresh driven snow (is that racist?) and had committed no crimes.
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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #84 on: December 08, 2022, 11:10:10 AM »
In a way her release is a shame.  Are there not other Americans held in Russia?  What about them?  Griner is an embarrassment to America.  She has displayed and spoken that she dislikes her country and an arrogant, self absorbed person who carried a prohibited substance into Russia.  Why not get the releases of other American captives who have done nothing to shame our country first and Griner last.  I have nothing personally against Griner as she is free to speak and act her mind in our America...but to prioritize her over others is shameful virtue signaling.  Just my 2cents.

I suspect you're preaching to the choir, bro.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/wnba-star-brittney-griner-released-from-russian-custody-in-a-high-profile-prisoner-swap-between-the-us-and-moscow/ar-AA152Z5I

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President Joe Biden signed off on the trade, which took place in the United Arab Emirates, even though it meant leaving behind Paul Whelan, an American corporate security executive who remains jailed in Russia.

Whelan should have been first, for sure.
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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #85 on: December 08, 2022, 11:14:34 AM »

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/wnba-star-brittney-griner-released-from-russian-custody-in-a-high-profile-prisoner-swap-between-the-us-and-moscow/ar-AA152Z5I


The first time in the history of the world that anyone associated with the WNBA has been called "high profile".
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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #86 on: December 08, 2022, 12:29:21 PM »
Biden's next stop after his Griner speech announcing the release of an arms dealer was a gun violence love in.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/12/08/heres-what-biden-did-after-releasing-an-arms-dealer-to-secure-brittney-griners-return/
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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #87 on: December 08, 2022, 01:03:59 PM »
Whelan should have been first, for sure.
You mean the ex-marine who was booted out of the USMC with a bad conduct discharge?
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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #88 on: December 08, 2022, 01:27:18 PM »
You mean the ex-marine who was booted out of the USMC with a bad conduct discharge?

Still a better candidate for prisoner swap than Griner.
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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #89 on: December 08, 2022, 02:44:44 PM »
Still a better candidate for prisoner swap than Griner.
Instead of the arms dealer, I would've offered Chelsea Manning or Bowe Bergdahl for Whelan and left Griner on the table.
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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #90 on: December 08, 2022, 04:48:46 PM »
Trivia note: Viktor Bout was the inspiration for the protagonist in Lord of War.
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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #91 on: December 08, 2022, 05:08:54 PM »
Trivia note: Viktor Bout was the inspiration for the protagonist in Lord of War.

 I was wondering if that's the same guy-I bet he's LOL ing how this worked out
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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #92 on: December 08, 2022, 08:44:22 PM »
If Viktor Bout has been executed years ago this would be a  non-issue. 

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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #93 on: December 08, 2022, 10:58:11 PM »
If Viktor Bout has been executed years ago this would be a  non-issue. 

Clown world.

Guy should be laughing his ass off.  He won.  All because of some dumb *expletive deleted*ing WNBA deviant.
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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #94 on: December 09, 2022, 09:27:31 AM »
The very reasons we all hate her is why Biden got her sprung.

She’s a far left black lesbian athlete who hates the US. She checks ALL of the boxes for diversity and worship for the left.
I think I know what you're trying to say, but if taken literally the implication here seems to be that you hate her in part for her race and sexual orientation.

As for myself, I don't hate her.  Mild distaste is as far as my emotions toward her go. 

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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #95 on: December 09, 2022, 09:44:25 AM »
Guy should be laughing his ass off.  He won.  All because of some dumb *expletive deleted*ing WNBA deviant.

I was reminded of this scene in Lord of War...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTK8torOylM

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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #96 on: December 09, 2022, 09:47:36 AM »
I think I know what you're trying to say, but if taken literally the implication here seems to be that you hate her in part for her race and sexual orientation.

As for myself, I don't hate her.  Mild distaste is as far as my emotions toward her go.

I won't speak for what I think Boomhauer is saying, but for myself, I don't hate her for being black - you don't hate someone for their skin color. I don't hate her for being gay. She's an adult, and she can do things that I don't approve of (with the usual "not hurting anyone" caveats).

I do perhaps dislike rather than hate that she is a stupid moron, or perhaps arrogant, or efficiently, a combination of arrogant and stupid. So stupid and arrogant that she travels to Russia with drugs on her. So stupid and arrogant the she is a "kneeler" and hates the country that just rescued her.

I do hate the people and culture that made "black and gay and woman" a special class of citizen that we all know made her a priority for the exchange. If she were a white hetero male, not only would she still be in a ruskie pokie, but most likely none of us would even know about it.

For the future, I will be interested to see if she continues to kneel and hate the country that came to her rescue at great cost now, and perhaps more in the future if good old Vik goes back in business. I will also be interested to see if, as a "high profile celebrity", she speaks publicly about helping the forgotten others still being held.
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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #97 on: December 09, 2022, 10:12:21 AM »
I won't speak for what I think Boomhauer is saying, but for myself, I don't hate her for being black - you don't hate someone for their skin color. I don't hate her for being gay. She's an adult, and she can do things that I don't approve of (with the usual "not hurting anyone" caveats).
Agreed, but on the flip side, bigots like Democrats do care an awful lot about the color of people's skin and their sexual orientation.

I agree with Boomhauer that she was released largely because of her race, gender, sexual orientation, and political leaning.  Only one of those impacts my feelings toward her. 

Of course, while not entirely deterministic, race, gender, and sexual orientation do certainly have a significant relationship with political leanings in the US.

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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #98 on: December 09, 2022, 11:46:46 AM »
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I wonder if this was the Russians' game plan all along: arrest some semi-famous American and wait for Biden to offer a trade.
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Re: The Brittney Griner Thing
« Reply #99 on: December 09, 2022, 11:48:45 AM »
[tinfoil]

I wonder if this was the Russians' game plan all along: arrest some semi-famous American and wait for Biden to offer a trade.


Probably.  He just got lucky that it was someone both profoundly stupid and also checked all the intersectionality boxes.