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DeSantis 2024?
« on: August 03, 2022, 10:26:42 PM »

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    MAJOR announcement tomorrow morning from @GovRonDeSantis.

    Prepare for the liberal media meltdown of the year

    Everyone get some rest tonight 😉 🌚

    — Christina Pushaw 🐊 🇺🇸 (@ChristinaPushaw) August 4, 2022

Christina Pushaw predicts ‘liberal media meltdown of the year’ due to imminent announcement from Gov. Ron DeSantis
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/08/03/christina-pushaw-predicts-liberal-media-meltdown-of-the-year-due-to-imminent-announcement-from-gov-ron-desantis/
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Re: DeSantis 2024?
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2022, 11:13:12 PM »

Could be a lot of things: constitutional carry, an abortion law, arming teachers - or he's annexing Cuba?
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Re: DeSantis 2024?
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2022, 01:17:23 AM »

Doesn’t he need to win re-election as governor before he declares he’s running for POTUS?

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Re: DeSantis 2024?
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2022, 07:13:56 AM »

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I’m a state spokesperson so I don’t see internal polls. I can tell you this is an official announcement not a campaign one

— Christina Pushaw 🐊 🇺🇸 (@ChristinaPushaw) August 4, 2022

I suspect we'll see either a new abortion bill, or something else aimed at schools.  My money's on schools.  He can ride 'protect the kids from pedos" through the election, but there's enough blue and purple areas in FL to make abortion a dangerous tack, and we just had a new law go into effect this month.

Could be guns to, I guess.  He's been promising us open carry the whole time he's been governor.

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Re: DeSantis 2024?
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2022, 08:07:46 AM »

Could be guns to, I guess.  He's been promising us open carry the whole time he's been governor.

I wonder if it will be this:

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2022/04/29/gov--ron-desantis-says-constitutional-carry-is-coming-to-florida

Florida seems like one of the next likely candidates to join the club.
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Re: DeSantis 2024?
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2022, 10:54:24 AM »

Cue the outrage

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#BREAKING: Gov. Ron DeSantis is suspending State Attorney Andrew Warren, a Democrat, for vowing to not enforce prohibitions on sex changes for minors or restrictions on abortion

"When you make yourself above the law, you have violated your duty."
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/08/04/effective-immediately-ron-desantis-strikes-powerful-blow-for-justice-and-against-progressive-prosecutors-funded-by-soros-videos/
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Re: DeSantis 2024?
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2022, 11:05:27 AM »

Excellent.

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Re: DeSantis 2024?
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2022, 02:57:46 PM »

He may have over reached on this one.  State attorney is an elected position, and prosecutorial discretion is a thing. If a state attorney is utilizing their discretion improperly,  I would say that is a matter for the voters to decide.

I would think that executive removal of elected officials should be limited to when the offical themself is breaking the law.  I agree that the State Attorney should probably not have gone on record saying he would not enforce those two laws, but choosing not to prosecute those cases in the 13th circuit is within his purview.

Warren is half-way through his current term, and reasonably popular in Hillsborough County.

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Re: DeSantis 2024?
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2022, 03:48:51 PM »

He may have over reached on this one.  State attorney is an elected position, and prosecutorial discretion is a thing. If a state attorney is utilizing their discretion improperly,  I would say that is a matter for the voters to decide.

I would think that executive removal of elected officials should be limited to when the offical themself is breaking the law.  I agree that the State Attorney should probably not have gone on record saying he would not enforce those two laws, but choosing not to prosecute those cases in the 13th circuit is within his purview.

Warren is half-way through his current term, and reasonably popular in Hillsborough County.
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Re: DeSantis 2024?
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2022, 06:34:47 PM »

This is my problem with desantis. I don't think he thinks things through very well. Backfiring is a real thing that happens, and when it does it makes you look pretty stupid at best and recedes your progress at worst. The term from gaming is "feeding" [the opposition]. A teammate who feeds the opposition can be worse than one who does nothing. He seems to be socially conservative but activist and progressive when it comes to governing in a way that's not altogether intelligent.

I'm happy he's actually doing things to promote agenda items I usually agree with, but dammit you have to have some amount of finesse in the process to avoid feeding the opposition and to actually achieve those ends.
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Re: DeSantis 2024?
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2022, 07:48:56 PM »

I'm not saying this won't backfire, but I'm also not convinced it will backfire enough to matter.

I don't know if DeSantis has yet realized that Leftists like Warren are agents of a foreign, occupying power in our country, but at least he's sort of acting like he understands. Defeating Vichy is not going to be politics as usual. Neither was the Civil War.
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Re: DeSantis 2024?
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2022, 11:27:50 AM »

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2022/08/05/warren-fires-back-at-desantis-trying-to-make-a-good-impression-on-the-iowa-caucus-voters-n487668

Because the only thing worse than a pro-crime prosecutor is a governor trying to look good for Iowa caucus voters.

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The announcement came without notice to Warren, who said he has not yet gotten the chance to read the suspension, but said he “heard it contains a lot of conjecture and lies.”

“I woke up to do my job today, and that’s exactly what I did,” Warren said. “Just based on the Governor’s track record with unconstitutional orders, I have a feeling that this is going to be just as unconstitutional.”
That’s certainly a curious reaction. This State Attorney is commenting publicly on an order he hasn’t read and a raising a constitutional objection without researching the topic. It seems that DeSantis might have another ground for suspension on the basis of incompetence.
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Re: DeSantis 2024?
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2022, 05:39:04 PM »

I'd like to see constitutional carry down there. I'll be able to carry without concern all the way when I drive from IN down to visit family in FL. Last I looked all the states I drive through have const carry and are reciprocal or don't require state citizenship.
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Re: DeSantis 2024?
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2022, 05:52:40 PM »

He may have over reached on this one.  State attorney is an elected position, and prosecutorial discretion is a thing. If a state attorney is utilizing their discretion improperly,  I would say that is a matter for the voters to decide.

I would think that executive removal of elected officials should be limited to when the offical themself is breaking the law.  I agree that the State Attorney should probably not have gone on record saying he would not enforce those two laws, but choosing not to prosecute those cases in the 13th circuit is within his purview.

Warren is half-way through his current term, and reasonably popular in Hillsborough County.

Prosecutorial discretion is “the case against that person is questionable, let’s not waste resources on him/her”, or “that law is old and hasn’t been enforced for decades/longer and I’m not going to start now”.

A law that was recently passed that he won’t enforce simply because he disagrees with it is playing politics, and arguably insubordination.

I haven’t confirmed it, but DeSantis is claiming FL constitutional authority to suspend the guy.  If so, while one can argue a degree of playing politics on his part, but in this case it’s at least in keeping with the statewide trends.  Plus is working towards reducing harms to kids, born or not yet born.