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Alex Jones verdict
« on: August 05, 2022, 06:44:40 PM »
Finding that Sandy Hook was not a hoax, A jury awarded $4.1 million in compensatory damages yesterday and just now $45.2 million in punitive damages against Alex Jones.
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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2022, 07:06:29 PM »
He was a moron for saying that, but $50 million? This is a big part of what's wrong with our "gimme stuff!" litigious society, the ambulance chasing lawyers that promote it, and the juries that condone it.
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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2022, 08:30:09 PM »
Everything I've seen about this trial tells me it's just another political show.

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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2022, 08:43:25 PM »
He went way too far with the Sandy Hook was a hoax stuff. Perhaps not 45mil too far but too far never the less.
I can only imagine what the parents of a kid at SH feel though
 
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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2022, 10:11:53 PM »
And... How much did he make in the past year or so?
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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2022, 12:01:09 AM »
He went way too far with the Sandy Hook was a hoax stuff. Perhaps not 45mil too far but too far never the less.
I can only imagine what the parents of a kid at SH feel though
 
Is there some link to what he said that was different from all the other conspiracy stuff on that incident?  That stuff started within days if not hours of the event. 


Second, he is media.  Based on what we have seen the mainstream media get away with the last 10 years, I can't imagine what he did was worse. 
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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2022, 08:00:13 AM »
A mouthy moron spouts nonsense, and his idiotic rants cause DAMAGE to people in the amount of TENS OF MILLIONS of dollars?   :facepalm:
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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2022, 09:54:40 AM »
A mouthy moron spouts nonsense, and his idiotic rants cause DAMAGE to people in the amount of TENS OF MILLIONS of dollars?   :facepalm:

But ... but ... he hurted their FEELZ!!!!


The parents accused Jones of telling lies. The problem is: no matter what he said, it wasn't a lie if he believed it when he said it. From the little I have read about this case, it doesn't appear that the parents in any way established that he didn't believe what he was saying at the time he said it.
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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2022, 11:50:20 AM »
the quartering has an interesting point!  :cool:
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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2022, 05:24:03 PM »
A mouthy moron spouts nonsense, and his idiotic rants cause DAMAGE to people in the amount of TENS OF MILLIONS of dollars?   :facepalm:

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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2022, 09:39:53 PM »
the quartering has an interesting point!  :cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFly3Zn6jUQ

 I can't stand that bloated worm, but Jones is no more of jackwagon than many others

If the SH parents are due $45mil in punitive damages for Alex Jones then Kyle Rittenhouse should be a billionaire once the litigation is over.

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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2022, 01:39:47 PM »
If the SH parents are due $45mil in punitive damages for Alex Jones then Kyle Rittenhouse should be a billionaire once the litigation is over.

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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2022, 04:57:21 PM »
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation/deliberations-resume-in-trial-over-jones-sandy-hook-lies/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=owned_echobox_f&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3VaXujhI6a-y8-s9LujvHN5bDezvU5K12842Je_QR_D2Zl2n-j5Xjek2U#Echobox=1665604934

The jury thinks he should pay $ 965 million.
So eight people who'd never see 10 million dollars in their lifetime were "damaged" by having their feelings hurt to an average of over 100 million dollars apiece?

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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2022, 10:09:54 PM »
The amount is silly but Jones certainly deserves to be separated from every penny he made (and then some) from peddling his fake news about that tragedy. Those families went through something incredibly terrible and he made money by lying about them, doxxing them, and inspiring his craziest followers to stalk and harass them for years. He's scum.
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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2022, 12:03:53 AM »
The amount is silly but Jones certainly deserves to be separated from every penny he made (and then some) from peddling his fake news about that tragedy. Those families went through something incredibly terrible and he made money by lying about them, doxxing them, and inspiring his craziest followers to stalk and harass them for years. He's scum.
IMO, Jones was stating his opinion just like everyone else in media.  He doesn't deserve to get sued for it anymore than the rest of the media (many of whom pedal lies on a daily basis). 

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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2022, 01:26:06 AM »
As a professional crisis actor, my feelings are mixed.
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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2022, 07:27:50 AM »
I tend to think Jones knew exactly what he was doing.  He fired up his retarded listeners with things he knew were bullshit to milk money from them.  The result of that was things like this:

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I have seen reports of rape and death threats mailed to victims homes.  Homes, it bears mentioning, that the aholes had the address of because of Jones and his show.

I very rarely see any of Jones' show, but the segments I've seen have all been wildly incorrect, in some cases proven wrong in the very video or story he's supposedly commentating on. I suspect Jones doesn't have a billion dollars, but the world will be a better place if he's never heard from again.

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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2022, 07:40:22 AM »
Finding that Sandy Hook was not a hoax, A jury awarded $4.1 million in compensatory damages yesterday and just now $45.2 million in punitive damages against Alex Jones.

After all the other awards are added in, Jones owes nearly $1 billion. 

https://news.yahoo.com/alex-jones-hit-965-million-194830979.html
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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2022, 07:53:53 AM »
I worry about the precedent...
 
Will they next go after someone just a little less crazy?
 
And then someone else?
 
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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2022, 07:55:35 AM »
I kind of agree with both Dogmush's and Mech's last posts, even if they sound like they're kind of opposite of each other.

I think Alex Jones is an ass who needed to be sued in the same way I recently called elsewhere for the people harassing the Colorado baker to be sued (though admittedly I called for a ridiculous amount for effect in my argument, they need to be sued for an amount that means something). Alex Jones should have been sued for an amount that means something in the real world.

I looked up his net worth, reported as $40 million. A billion dollar settlement is cartoonish here. A $20 million settlement would have been a real world number that actually affected him, if you believe that he should be severely punished for what he did.

Which leads into where I agree with Mech: There are dozens and dozens of MSM "journalists" who have done the same thing Jones has done. Worse, because Jones is just a loudmouth celebrity. Journalists hide behind their occupation as "truth tellers" while telling outrageous lies that detrimentally affect - even ruin - innocent people. They don't deserve a pass anymore than Jones does. One might include every Harridan that appears on The View. They have detrimentally affected way more people than Jones ever has.
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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2022, 07:58:54 AM »
IMO, Jones was stating his opinion just like everyone else in media.  He doesn't deserve to get sued for it anymore than the rest of the media (many of whom pedal lies on a daily basis).
This.

The few - very few - times I've seen or heard Alex Jones I recognized he was spouting utterly asinine nonsense. But I see that as no different than what people in the media do every day of the week on CNN, MSDNC, the Huffington Post, and so forth and so on.

Harmful? What about the actions of people like (former) NY Gov. Cuomo, which were directly responsible for the deaths of 10,000 elderly nursing home residents? Or the shut downs of schools and businesses in various states causing harm to both the economy and the development of millions of children?

I could go on, but Alex Jones is small fry by comparison.
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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2022, 08:50:05 AM »
I kind of agree with both Dogmush's and Mech's last posts, even if they sound like they're kind of opposite of each other.

I think Alex Jones is an ass who needed to be sued in the same way I recently called elsewhere for the people harassing the Colorado baker to be sued (though admittedly I called for a ridiculous amount for effect in my argument, they need to be sued for an amount that means something). Alex Jones should have been sued for an amount that means something in the real world.

I looked up his net worth, reported as $40 million. A billion dollar settlement is cartoonish here. A $20 million settlement would have been a real world number that actually affected him, if you believe that he should be severely punished for what he did.

Which leads into where I agree with Mech: There are dozens and dozens of MSM "journalists" who have done the same thing Jones has done. Worse, because Jones is just a loudmouth celebrity. Journalists hide behind their occupation as "truth tellers" while telling outrageous lies that detrimentally affect - even ruin - innocent people. They don't deserve a pass anymore than Jones does. One might include every Harridan that appears on The View. They have detrimentally affected way more people than Jones ever has.

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"I looked up his net worth, reported as $40 million. A billion dollar settlement is cartoonish here. A $20 million settlement would have been a real world number that actually affected him, if you believe that he should be severely punished for what he did."

They don't want to punish him they want to destroy him. Bury him in a debt grave so deep he will never see the light of day again.

Now that said, what do you think the settlement would have been if he was a leftist or even if there would have been one? Have the media talking heads and politicians who were demanding photos of the dead children be publicized been sued?

Edit: Whoops  Got stuck on the term settlement.
Replace settlement with verdict awarded in the question.
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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2022, 09:14:12 AM »
They don't want to punish him they want to destroy him. Bury him in a debt grave so deep he will never see the light of day again.

Now that said, what do you think the settlement would have been if he was a leftist or even if there would have been one?

I'm not going to make assumptions about the jury as I don't know who they are, but I don't think the people suing him (parents of murdered children) care as much about his political stances. They're suing him for what he said about them and their children and, yes, I do believe they want to bury him in debt for what he did to them. I suspect he will suffer far less than they have, at least in this life.
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Re: Alex Jones verdict
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2022, 09:23:21 AM »
I'm not going to make assumptions about the jury as I don't know who they are, but I don't think the people suing him (parents of murdered children) care as much about his political stances. They're suing him for what he said about them and their children and, yes, I do believe they want to bury him in debt for what he did to them. I suspect he will suffer far less than they have, at least in this life.

My question has to do with the settlement not whether or not he should have sued in the first place.

Edit: Whoops, Replace settlement with verdict awarded in the question.
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