As if we didn't have enough to worry about. Now a rail strike.

[Pb]

Uhm... huh?

THIS is the Armed Polite Society, and yes, a Preacherman by that description used to post here in the early days.

Yes, you are right.  I meant to say the Firing Line and the High Road.

[charby]

and the saga continues

[WLJ]

Yep looming again after being put off.

But you can't go strike, we're making it illegal.

The House has passed a resolution 209-137 that would force unions to accept a tentative agreement reached earlier this year between railroad managers and their workers and make an imminent strike illegal.

The House has voted to avert a rail strike. Now the bill heads to the Senate
https://www.npr.org/2022/11/30/1139876084/congress-house-railroad-strike-bill

Lets see how the union responds to that

But that's okay Americans don't, or didn't, know what a supply chain is anyway.

During a recent rally in Michigan, Biden suggested that the crowd, and Americans in general, had no idea what a supply chain was until it became a recent media topic related to the country’s economic troubles in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Biden slammed for claiming public didn't know 'what the hell a supply chain was': 'Insulting Americans'
https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-slammed-claiming-public-didnt-know-what-hell-supply-chain-insulting-americans

Just like with inflation, it's some new term or something.

[RoadKingLarry]

Yep looming again after being put off.

But you can't go strike, we're making it illegal.
The House has voted to avert a rail strike. Now the bill heads to the Senate
https://www.npr.org/2022/11/30/1139876084/congress-house-railroad-strike-bill

Lets see how the union responds to that

But that's okay Americans don't, or didn't, know what a supply chain is anyway.
Biden slammed for claiming public didn't know 'what the hell a supply chain was': 'Insulting Americans'
https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-slammed-claiming-public-didnt-know-what-hell-supply-chain-insulting-americans

Just like with inflation, it's some new term or something.

Well, considering how gourd awful stupid the average American really is I'm gonna actually side with Biden on this one, even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while and  even a broken analogue clock is right twice a day.

[dogmush]

I actually hope that this is the timeline where railroad workers strike, and the Biden Administration jails some and forces others to work under threat of force.

Yeah, it'd *expletive deleted*ck up the supply chain, be morally reprehensible,  and probably lead to violence, but it'd be great to see the national level Dems shed their skins and show themselves. It'd be great for next year's Thanksgiving Cheat Sheet.

Biden.  He'll make the trains run on time!

[WLJ]

I actually hope that this is the timeline where railroad workers strike, and the Biden Administration jails some and forces others to work under threat of force.

Yeah, it'd *expletive deleted*ck up the supply chain, be morally reprehensible,  and probably lead to violence, but it'd be great to see the national level Dems shed their skins and show themselves. It'd be great for next year's Thanksgiving Cheat Sheet.

Biden.  He'll make the trains run on time!

I'm sure the MSM will find a way no matter how stupid it will sound to those who know better to blame Trump and the Rs and the sheep will go Baaaahh

[Boomhauer]

I actually hope that this is the timeline where railroad workers strike, and the Biden Administration jails some and forces others to work under threat of force.

Yeah, it'd *expletive deleted*ck up the supply chain, be morally reprehensible,  and probably lead to violence, but it'd be great to see the national level Dems shed their skins and show themselves. It'd be great for next year's Thanksgiving Cheat Sheet.

Biden.  He'll make the trains run on time!

Will the Dems go against their butt buddies the unions like that?

[HankB]

. . . Lets see how the union responds to that . . .

They all call in saying they tested positive for covid.

Seems like it would be a problem much worse than the PATCO strike back in the '80s, and the legality is suspect; the PATCO strikers were government employees so Reagan could fire them. Railroad workers . . . I don't know.

I actually hope that this is the timeline where railroad workers strike, and the Biden Administration jails some and forces others to work under threat of force.

I suppose Biden could jail them with the Jan 6 people, but that won't get the trains running. Forcing them to work "under threat of force" probably wouldn't work very well unless the overseers were using whips . . . and then just imagine if some workers were POCs and someone got video . . .

[WLJ]

Well, considering how gourd awful stupid the average American really is I'm gonna actually side with Biden on this one, even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while and  even a broken analogue clock is right twice a day.

Biden is digital clock blinking
12:00
12:00
12:00
12:00
12:00
12:00
12:00
12:00

[Andiron]

Yep looming again after being put off.

But you can't go strike, we're making it illegal.
The House has voted to avert a rail strike. Now the bill heads to the Senate
https://www.npr.org/2022/11/30/1139876084/congress-house-railroad-strike-bill

Lets see how the union responds to that

But that's okay Americans don't, or didn't, know what a supply chain is anyway.
Biden slammed for claiming public didn't know 'what the hell a supply chain was': 'Insulting Americans'
https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-slammed-claiming-public-didnt-know-what-hell-supply-chain-insulting-americans

Just like with inflation, it's some new term or something.

My opinion of Unions is generally lower than whale *expletive deleted*it,  but I have a real problem with Congress making them slaves.

[WLJ]

Got to hammer out a deal before those Rs ruin everything.

But the dangers a strike would pose to the U.S. economy and Americans’ health and safety proved too great as months of talks barreled toward a Dec. 9 deadline with no resolution in sight, White House aides said Tuesday after Biden asked Congress to impose a settlement that left many union supporters angered.

The administration also worried that Republicans, who are set to take control of the House in January, could impose an even less labor-friendly deal if the strike threat is still lingering then.

Inside Biden’s decision to halt a rail strike
Months of talks have failed to end the impasse between unions and freight railroads. And a GOP-led House looms in January.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/29/bidens-congress-halt-rail-strike-00071251

[charby]

Well so much for organized labor.

[dogmush]

Looks like he signed it. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-signs-bill-rail-strike/

They didn't give the railroad workers any sick leave, which was one of their big talking points.

I'm impressed with the balls to call it a "labor agreement" when it was forced by legislative action.

[Nick1911]

What's the value of a union if they have no leverage?

[cordex]

What's the value of a union if they have no leverage?

Pretty much the same as the value of a politician who once in power doesn't do the things they claimed to be for.

That is to say, it makes corrupt leaders very wealthy.

[Cliffh]

This bothers me.  The fed.gov legislating that workers of a private company must accept terms they don't want & the workers must continue to work under those terms.

That's wrong.  Very wrong.

[WLJ]

Imagine the MSM if this occurred under Trump. Be 24/7 how how Trump is a fascist dictator etc.... With Biden, crickets.

[dogmush]

So what happens if the workers call in sick on the 9th?

[French G.]

In this specific case they have  the law on their side, 1926 Railway act, an early use of them claiming broad powers under the interstate commerce clause. The precedent is kinda disturbing though since we must all be at our machines lest we affect interstate commerce. And if we're not at work we might grow pot, which we also have precedent of that affecting interstate commerce...

[230RN]

I can't dismiss the notion that this is all a put-up prearranged crisis to make the administration look good.

Are you listening,?

I always had the back-of-my-mind suspicion that Preacherman was Perd Hadley's first ID before his four or five name changes.

Just a suspicion awaiting evidence, so I never said anything until it came up here.

[Perd Hapley]

I can't dismiss the notion that this is all a put-up prearranged crisis to make the administration look good.

Are you listening,?

I always had the back-of-my-mind suspicion that Preacherman was Perd Hadley's first ID before his four or five name changes.

Just a suspicion awaiting evidence, so I never said anything until it came up here.

I am very confused.

[Boomhauer]

This bothers me.  The fed.gov legislating that workers of a private company must accept terms they don't want & the workers must continue to work under those terms.

That's wrong.  Very wrong.

The workers are now in the same exact place all of us non union workers are. Work or get fired. As a side note it is quite amusing that the left LOVES to tell me I’d be much better off in a union when this major union controlled industry gets treated worse and have the government involved telling them that striking is off the table.

[HankB]

The workers are now in the same exact place all of us non union workers are. Work or get fired. . . .

How fast and easy would it be to replace a whole bunch of railroad workers? I know for a while it would have been easy to get rid of firemen (whose ONLY duty was to shovel coal into the firebox . . . even on a diesel locomotive.) but engineers and others would seem to have some learned skills, and I really don't know how deep the bench of qualified replacements is.

[230RN]

Car MFRs:  Too big to allow to fail.

RR Unions: Too big to allow to fail bail.

"Doesn't this sniff a little bit like the first step to nationalize the railroads?" Terry asked, paranoidically. 

(dogmush's remark about Mussolini made me think of that.)

[zahc]

Nationalizing the railroads is probably the right thing to do at this point anyway.