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Abbott to Deploy Texas National Guard at Border
« on: November 16, 2022, 02:05:21 PM »

Looks like Abbott wants to get serious about the border problem.
Time will tell if it's a serious effort or just padding the resumé.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-gov-greg-abbott-invokes-constitutional-invasion-clause-immigration-crisis
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Re: Abbott to Deploy Texas National Guard at Border
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2022, 02:09:30 PM »

Will they have whips?
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Re: Abbott to Deploy Texas National Guard at Border
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2022, 02:19:33 PM »

And on the same day

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    Chuck Schumer says Democrats want to pass an immigration bill because "we have a population that is not reproducing on its own with the same level that it used to."

    Schumer then calls for amnesty for "all 11 million or however many" illegal immigrants in the U.S. pic.twitter.com/Ws3thMaEbw

    — RNC Research (@RNCResearch) November 16, 2022
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Re: Abbott to Deploy Texas National Guard at Border
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2022, 02:58:54 PM »

In reality, the federal government loves the great replacement because white people aren't crooked and subservient enough for them.  Governments in tribal countries can get away with massive corruption and incompetence without worrying about being replaced.

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Re: Abbott to Deploy Texas National Guard at Border
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2022, 04:39:39 PM »

I thought Abbott had already deployed TNG to the border.

If they're unarmed and/or operating under severely restrictive ROEs, they won't do any good.
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Re: Abbott to Deploy Texas National Guard at Border
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2022, 05:05:04 PM »

What's the point?

The US population is not going to put up with shooting illegal border crossers or laying minefields or anything fatal.

If the TNG arrests them, then what?  There's no where to house them.  If you turn them over to the feds, we know how that program works.  You could try and turn them around, but Mexico doesn't want them back, and will facilitate them crossing again tomorrow.  If they even turn around, short of force.

Is Texas going to finance and build a wall?

Reading the article, the actions he mentions are: 

1. activation of National Guard and Texas Department of Public Safety personnel to safeguard the border and turn back would-be migrants from illegally crossing the border.   See above.  What are they going to do if they don't turn back?

2. DPS personnel will also be order to arrest and return illegal migrants to the border.  And then what?  incarcerate them? where?  Turn them loose in Mexico to cross again?

3. The governor went on to claim he will be deploying gun boats for defense of the southern border and will designate Mexican drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations.   Again, he's not going to be capping drug mules in the Rio Grande.  Designating the cartels as terrorist organizations might help, but unless the TNG is going to run search and destroy ops in Mexico I'm not seeing how they can do too much.

I applaud Abbot for wanting to do something in the face of the Fed's complete fecklessness, but I don't really see what he hopes to accomplish.  This being 2022 though, and the craziest timeline, maybe the TXANG will drop some JDAMs on Cartel mansions 'ala Clear and Present Danger.  That would stir up the *expletive deleted*it but good.

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Re: Abbott to Deploy Texas National Guard at Border
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2022, 05:14:12 PM »

. . . The US population is not going to put up with shooting illegal border crossers or laying minefields or anything fatal . . .
Some won't. Those who know someone killed, robbed or raped by an illegal, or someone who lost a loved one to fentanyl? Maybe not.

Hmmm . . . in regard to fentanyl, can a state official say that bringing a deadly drug which kills 100k Americans annually constitutes an attack with a WMD?  (Chemical weapons are considered WMDs.) If so, can drug mules be treated as unlawful combatants, terrorists, or war criminals?
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Re: Abbott to Deploy Texas National Guard at Border
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2022, 05:17:10 PM »

I would bet money the first CNN video that goes out of US soldiers shooting unarmed illegal migrants would result in riots, impeachments of state officials, and probably arrests.

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Re: Abbott to Deploy Texas National Guard at Border
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2022, 07:51:45 PM »

Need to start shooting the *expletive deleted*ing rioters..
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Re: Abbott to Deploy Texas National Guard at Border
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2022, 09:05:37 PM »

"Make butt-stroking great again!"
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Re: Abbott to Deploy Texas National Guard at Border
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2022, 09:45:28 PM »

I thought Abbott had already deployed TNG to the border.

If they're unarmed and/or operating under severely restrictive ROEs, they won't do any good.
I am not sure he has the power to do anything more than that.  I have heard people talk about putting things in place to plug gaps in the wall, etc.  Maybe that is part of it.  We will see.
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Re: Abbott to Deploy Texas National Guard at Border
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2022, 07:43:56 AM »

I am not sure he has the power to do anything more than that.  I have heard people talk about putting things in place to plug gaps in the wall, etc.  Maybe that is part of it.  We will see.
Plugging gaps may not do much good - months ago, I saw film footage of a big group of illegals on the other side of a big border fence - uniformed border patrol agents opened the gates to let them in.  :mad:
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Re: Abbott to Deploy Texas National Guard at Border
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2022, 02:12:40 PM »

"Make butt-stroking great again!"

The drag queen shows are working on that.

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Re: Abbott to Deploy Texas National Guard at Border
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2022, 02:15:28 PM »

"Make butt-stroking great again!"

Not clicking on that link
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Re: Abbott to Deploy Texas National Guard at Border
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2022, 02:34:50 PM »

Not clicking on that link

It is TOTALLY SFW and requires no eye-bleach.
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Re: Abbott to Deploy Texas National Guard at Border
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2022, 02:39:00 PM »

It is TOTALLY SFW and requires no eye-bleach.
When the local furry starts posting about stroking butts I give it a pass too.

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Re: Abbott to Deploy Texas National Guard at Border
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2022, 02:54:56 PM »

Kass twa, fit-putain!
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Re: Abbott to Deploy Texas National Guard at Border
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2022, 04:21:43 PM »

Scaredy cats.  It's a Wikipedia article on using a rifle as a blunt force weapon.  It even has illustrations for the blind and hard of hearing.

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A buttstroke or butt-stroking is the act of striking someone with the buttstock of a rifle, shotgun, or other long gun. It is a common case of the use of a firearm as a blunt weapon. Buttstroke is among the major offensive techniques with the rifle and bayonet in close-at-hand combat and is the recommended method of close combat if the rifleman has no bayonet or sidearm available.
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