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Re: Club Q shooting...
« Reply #50 on: November 23, 2022, 02:48:12 PM »

This is looking like an episode South Park writers rejected for being too far out there.
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« Reply #51 on: November 23, 2022, 03:23:56 PM »


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Sorry but if you're on the Left then you have no right to deny the shooter's non-binary identity. You set a precedent here and we will hold you to it. You have to respect his identity. I don't. You do. These are your rules. Now take your medicine and shut up.

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« Reply #52 on: November 23, 2022, 04:12:39 PM »

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A medical person measuring an extracted .22 LR bullet might report it as 5.56 mm.  Just noting this possibility.

Formal metric designation for .22 LR is 5.6×15mmR, a difference of 0.0016", less than 2 thousandths of an inch possibly measured with bloody gloved hands.
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Yes, it is starting to sound like a bad 1950s Hollywood or TV script. Or, later, a convoluted-evidence Perry Mason episode.
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« Reply #53 on: November 23, 2022, 04:51:57 PM »

If they're pulling out intact bullets I doubt they're 5.56. 5.56 at that range should fragment fairly consistently 
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« Reply #54 on: November 23, 2022, 05:51:23 PM »

Looks like they beat the crap out of him, sorry they/them.
Think they'll, the people who did this to they/them, be charged with a hate crime?

Note how they refer to him as they and them in the article

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Colorado Police also today released a mugshot of Aldrich showing them with several bruises and cuts across their face after being beaten and pistol whipped
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Anderson Aldrich,' they replied weakly, followed by another weak 'Yes,' when asked if they understood their rights in court.
Bruised, battered and beaten: face of the Colorado gay club killer after he was disarmed and pistol-whipped by hero vet - as lawyers claim he is non-binary
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11462947/Colorado-Springs-shooting-suspect-ordered-held-without-bail.html



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« Reply #55 on: November 23, 2022, 06:44:55 PM »

Looks like those girls have pretty long sharp nails.

If they're pulling out intact bullets I doubt they're 5.56. 5.56 at that range should fragment fairly consistently

That's what I was getting at.  An error due to incompetence. Or possibly by design, since "five-five-six" triggers fear-fear brain cells in the iggerant voting populace.

"Eeek, a 5.56!  We have to ban those assault long arms!"

"And did you know the rifle used by that guy has more than TWICE the twist of the regular army gun ? ! ?  That's right, it has 16 and only 7 for the army guns ! And you can buy them without a license?  We must limit that twist to only 7 ! "

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« Reply #56 on: November 23, 2022, 07:29:09 PM »

I was theorizing earlier it could have been a 22.
Are you seeing something confirming that that I missed?
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« Reply #57 on: November 23, 2022, 08:18:09 PM »

Photos of the kid in gear reminds me of this

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« Reply #58 on: November 24, 2022, 12:48:47 AM »

That's what I was getting at.  An error due to incompetence. Or possibly by design, since "five-five-six" triggers fear-fear brain cells in the iggerant voting populace.

"Eeek, a 5.56!  We have to ban those assault long arms!"

"And did you know the rifle used by that guy has more than TWICE the twist of the regular army gun ? ! ?  That's right, it has 16 and only 7 for the army guns ! And you can buy them without a license?  We must limit that twist to only 7 ! "

Do you think the non-shooting populace knows what caliber ARs are typically chambered for? I'm pretty sure twist rates are not even on their radar.
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« Reply #59 on: November 24, 2022, 06:55:07 AM »

I was theorizing earlier it could have been a 22.
Are you seeing something confirming that that I missed?

No, just confirming the posssibiity of an error in the direction of using the most damaging description ("5.56" versus ".22") for PR effect due to the diameter similarity. Basically, agreeing with you, and "here's why."
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« Reply #60 on: November 24, 2022, 06:59:53 AM »

Do you think the non-shooting populace knows what caliber ARs are typically chambered for?

See previous Reply #59 ^.

 
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I'm pretty sure twist rates are not even on their radar.

Of course not.  I was playing on their ignorance for humorous effect, as if one of their fuct-checkers discovered the relative twist rates of a .22 versus a 5.56:  "My God, his rifle had a 16 inch twist, and the military only has to use 7 inches-- that's TWICE as much than even the military needs !"

<pause for laughter> <none forthcoming> <tap-tap-tap > "Is this microphone on?"

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« Reply #61 on: November 24, 2022, 09:02:46 AM »

The dad just became the "right wing" poster boy in this to the left.

'Violence works': Colorado club killer's porn star dad says 'I praised him for his violent behavior' as he reveals his biggest worry was that his son was gay after discovering he'd killed five people in LGBTQ club
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11463995/Colorado-club-killers-porn-star-dad-worried-son-gay-heard-massacre.html
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« Reply #62 on: November 24, 2022, 09:44:41 PM »

Hmmm.... accessory?  There must be something he could be charged with for abetting the criminal behavior of his son and to keep him from peeing in the pool any more.

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« Reply #63 on: November 25, 2022, 02:17:56 PM »

Add the mother to that

Colorado club killer and his mother are seen in new video threatening Frontier Airlines passengers after a flight - less than four months before he gunned down five people at gay nightclub
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11469807/Colorado-club-killer-mother-seen-new-video-arguing-Frontier-Airlines-passengers.html
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« Reply #64 on: November 25, 2022, 04:35:39 PM »

Like great-grandfather, like great-grandson.

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« Reply #65 on: November 26, 2022, 09:02:40 AM »

I expect to see more of this as much of the media seems hellbent on blaming any and all groups considered to be on the right of any issue.

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A sign outside the Focus on the Family facility in Colorado Springs, Colorado, was vandalized on Thanksgiving, just days after a mass shooting at an LGBTQ bar left five people dead and 17 wounded.

The morning of Nov. 24, officials reported graffiti at the facility that read: "Their blood is on your hands five lives taken." A piece of metal was left leaning against the large stone sign, which quoted 2 Corinthians 11:14-15.

Focus on the Family in Colorado vandalized with graffiti days after Club Q tragedy: 'Blood is on your hands'
https://www.foxnews.com/us/focus-family-colorado-vandalized-graffiti-days-after-club-q-tragedy
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« Reply #66 on: November 26, 2022, 09:33:34 AM »

Well so far I can find no photos of the rifle or any mention of brand or photos of spent shell casings which is unusual at this point.
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« Reply #67 on: November 26, 2022, 09:43:29 AM »

I expect to see more of this as much of the media seems hellbent on blaming any and all groups considered to be on the right of any issue.

Focus on the Family in Colorado vandalized with graffiti days after Club Q tragedy: 'Blood is on your hands'
https://www.foxnews.com/us/focus-family-colorado-vandalized-graffiti-days-after-club-q-tragedy

What's the tie-in to Focus on the Family? Was the shooter affiliated with them, or is this just the woke community showing their love of humanity by hating Christians?

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« Reply #68 on: November 26, 2022, 09:48:06 AM »

What's the tie-in to Focus on the Family? Was the shooter affiliated with them, or is this just the woke community showing their love of humanity by hating Christians?

I think more of the former since they they're been trying to tie the shooting in with the Mormons, I think the family is Mormon or semi Mormon or something, but I see no mention of a Mormon connection with FOTF in the wiki article on them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focus_on_the_Family
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« Reply #69 on: November 26, 2022, 10:18:08 AM »

What's the tie-in to Focus on the Family? Was the shooter affiliated with them, or is this just the woke community showing their love of humanity by hating Christians?
You're expecting rational logic?

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« Reply #70 on: November 26, 2022, 11:26:16 AM »

What's the tie-in to Focus on the Family? Was the shooter affiliated with them, or is this just the woke community showing their love of humanity by hating Christians?

They are, or were, one of the most high-profile social conservative groups in the United States, and I think they're based in Colorado.

Funny how those pregnancy centers keep getting attacked, and we don't "have to have a national discussion" about pro-abortion extremism. Hmmm...
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« Reply #71 on: November 26, 2022, 11:46:39 AM »

Funny how quickly they forgot the Orlando gay nightclub shooting where 49 were killed 53 wounded once it was revealed the shooter was Muslim.
Don't seem to recall the lefties blaming the Muslim community or attacking Mosques afterward either but instead called for tolerance of the Muslim community. Meanwhile gays are routinely executed in Muslim counties. But speak out against grooming, oh the horror!
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« Reply #72 on: December 05, 2022, 08:00:34 AM »

Beating the ban "weapons of war" drum
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Authorities haven’t provided details about the weapons used in the Club Q shooting.

In all the recent "mass" shootings" by now we knew details about the weapon(s) while they seem to be dragging their feet in this one.
The latest I've seen is they're still calling it an "AR-15 style" weapon. Makes me wonder if there's something about it they don't want us to know like it was a 22 as I speculated before. Note: Speculation

Anyhow

CO dems looking to bans "weapons of war", raise min age, "tweaks" to Red Flag laws. But at least they admit this in the article.
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Fenberg, who said gun control conversations were underway even before the Club Q shootings, said a ban on so-called assault weapons is certainly a possibility. The challenge is figuring out how to write the complicated policy, including how to define what an assault weapon is, what should happen to such weapons that are already in the possession of Colorado residents and how to address people traveling to neighboring states to purchase weapons that would be prohibited in Colorado. 

Colorado Democrats eye gun-purchase waiting periods, ban on so-called assault weapons, and red flag law expansion
https://coloradosun.com/2022/12/02/colorado-gun-laws-club-q-shooting/
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« Reply #73 on: December 05, 2022, 08:07:41 AM »

They are still referring to it as a "Ghost" gun".
Could have been, don't know because they're being usually tight lipped about the gun.


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There has been no official word from law enforcement on exactly which, or how many, weapons were used in the lone shooter’s attack. But law enforcement said the suspect fired an AR-15-style rifle in Club Q.

Sunday, on CBS News’ Face the Nation, Colorado Gov. Jared Polis was asked about the weapons and he referenced media reports which said the alleged shooter used an unregistered ghost gun. The family has confirmed with The Gazette that Aldrich had a 3D printer and reportedly was working on making a ghost gun, but it is unknown what make of gun that may have been.
Club Q attack: What we know and don't know
https://denvergazette.com/continuing-coverage/club-q-shooting/club-q-attack-what-we-know-and-dont-know/article_a37ff636-7023-11ed-b2fc-37ee57f0fef6.html
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« Reply #74 on: December 05, 2022, 09:11:57 AM »

They are still referring to it as a "Ghost" gun".
Could have been, don't know because they're being usually tight lipped about the gun.


My guess is it's a pre-1968 .22 rifle that never had a serial number; maybe a Sears or Monkey Wards model.
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