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HankB

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An electric - truck?
« on: November 23, 2022, 09:39:47 AM »

I was at a local grocery store earlier this week and saw a funny looking full size 4-door pickup truck - the front looked odd and the pickup box looked kind of short. And saw it was a RIVIAN.

https://rivian.com/

Turns out it was an electric vehicle. Wonder if the company is planning to play in the TESLA market space. The website describes it in terms as glowing as the MyPillow guy uses in his commercials. They're taking $1k deposits for possible delivery in 2023, but this truck was here now. In addition to the pickup, they're also advertising an SUV and delivery vans. (Pix of vans with Amazon livery were on the site.)

According to the website, the truck has "up to" a 400 mile range, can tow "up to" 11,000 pounds, and can be upgraded to >800hp and >900 ft lbs of torque. Zero to 60 times as low as 3 seconds. SUV ground clearance 14.9 inches (a little more for the pickup) and wading depth of 3 feet. The company claims it's establishing a bunch of "Rivian Only" charging stations that will add 120 miles of range in 20 minutes. The company is also pushing fleet sales with the capability of tracking it's vehicles in real time.

Prices for the pickup start at $73,000, the SUV $78,000, and can easily top $100k with just a few options, so if you want to save on gas money, it's going to cost you.

We'll see what happens, this may go the way of the Tucker, but what do I know - I'm a little surprised Tesla is still around.
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Re: An electric - truck?
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2022, 09:45:43 AM »

IMO, electric vehicles need to advertise a more realistic range.  "up to 400 miles" doesn't mean crap.  What does it mean when you have 500 lbs in the back?  Or are pulling a small trailer?  And how long does it take charge at a typical charging station.
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Re: An electric - truck?
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2022, 09:50:11 AM »

I saw a Rivian the other day.  It looked a bit shorter, taller, and wider than my 2016 Toyota Tacoma four door short bed pickup.
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Re: An electric - truck?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2022, 10:26:08 AM »

I've actually been seeing quite a few Teslas in my urban area...
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Re: An electric - truck?
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2022, 07:05:21 PM »

Rivian's have been out for a MY or two now.  There are several in my area.  It's a nice truck, but pricey, and definitely has it's niche.

As far as advertising and the numbers, real world reviews exist, and the truck has EPA milage ratings, so you can find that out before you buy. No different than Ford saying an F140 can tow 11,000 pounds and get up to 20 whatever MPG.  If properly equipped, and driven just so.

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Re: An electric - truck?
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2022, 08:02:10 PM »

There's a video out there of one turning in roughly its own length.  Apparently, it can power one side forward and the other in reverse at the same time.  Probably more Gee Whiz than useful, but it did look cool.
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Re: An electric - truck?
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2022, 08:40:33 PM »

I asked Elon if I could test a Tesla truck here in the country to see what it could really do. I never got an answer. I could see the torque working out for farm tasks.

The NHRA has added some EV classes. Looks pretty good. Not up to nitro power but running about alcohol/high octane range on the dragsters. Even Big Daddy is in on this stuff.

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Re: An electric - truck?
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2022, 11:50:48 AM »

I wonder ... Does it have enough towing capacity to haul around a portable generator and fifty gallon fuel tank for when the battery goes dead?  [popcorn]

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Re: An electric - truck?
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2022, 12:15:11 PM »

I wonder ... Does it have enough towing capacity to haul around a portable generator and fifty gallon fuel tank for when the battery goes dead?  [popcorn]

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With a towing capacity of 11,000 pounds, I would say yes.

No idea what the "up to 400 mile range" would be if it were actually towing a trailer that weighed that much. I'd bet some serious cash that it wouldn't be 400 miles unless a lot of the extra weight was in batteries.
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Re: An electric - truck?
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2022, 01:48:55 PM »

The Rivian R1T (truck) has been out for over a year.  The R1S (SUV) was just recently released.

Yes, the truck can tow 11,000 pounds and has a max range of 400 miles (with the big battery option), but not both at the same time.  Just like a gas engine truck, when you add weight and/or drag, the range drops.  In the case of the R1T, the range penalty is huge.  This Youtube channel has done several reviews of the R1T.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zce-wC__kkU&t=771s

Can the R1T carry a generator and gas?  Of course it can.  Do you carry an extra gas tank in your pickup in case you run out of gas or do you plan your trip to not run out of gas? 

Jim147, if you sign-up with Rivian, they will let you know when there are demos and test drives in your area.

Griz, that tank turn only works on the quad-motor trucks.  AFAIK, no production vehicle can do it.

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Re: An electric - truck?
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2022, 05:08:30 PM »

I've seen three Rivian R1Ts here in Michigan. I machined all of the parts for the hydraulic lift skid that lifts the battery into the chassis. I can't afford one, but would like to test drive one.